thanks wayno, the details are what takes the most time, I got two pieces of alum. diamondplate cut. one for the headache rack and one for the rear bumper, but i should have waited until I was finished with the cab guard, as once I started building it I decided that the distance from the horizontal bar to the top was too great and didnt look proportional, so I added the second one that lines up with the bottom of the rear window, so now I have another void that needs filled and no diamondplate to fill it! oh well I will go back and get another piece next weekend. I found a guy in Tacoma that will shear it to size for me and his prices are reasonable.