well i did finally squat the rear end of my truck i dropped the axle and put the helper leaf on the top of the other two leaf springs it gave me an exact two inch drop now i just need to figure out what i can use to bulge/flare my front fenders without creasing them im looking for a 2 to 3'' bulge/flare also my rear leafs got pretty soft when i switched them around it not to soft can still hold a few hundred pounds easy