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#21 Charlie69

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 09:15 AM

I Have not had time to work on my truck was working hard to keep my job. But last Monday the inevitable happened layed off.

So now I have time to work on my truck but I have had to trim no cut my budget for the truck! LOL

So now I will have to lean more to the Ratsun side on this truck. So I am going to go ahead withh the Rustoleum orange paint for the interior and the engine compartment instead of the expensive custom mixed color I had chose.

I will tear down both of the L20B' that I have and choose the best of the parts determine the machine work needed and to as much work as I can myself on the motors.

I have 4 automatic transmisions and between the 4 I should be able to peice 1 good one out of them minizing my cash output on the transmision to a new torque converter and a rebuild kit.

As for the heater and dash I will run what I have for now. As for the A/C it will be 2 windows down at 60 mph. LOL

Well guys a little bit of adjusting and I still might make Canby 2010. LOL

Any info on a good reasonable source for motor and tranny rebuild kits would be helpful.

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#22 hacked521

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 08:09 PM

hey man that really sucks about getting layed off, i know we were talkiing about it while I was up there picking up the stuff.

Id like to thank you again for everything you gave me, I just threw that distributor in my l16 and runs great now. The internals on the l20 looked surprisingly good for as much mileage it sounded like it got. thanks again man.

Youre a cool dude and think that what comes around goes around, youll get your end of the bargain eventually.

Im gonna be getting a majority of my parts for the L20b from rockauto.com they seem to have allright prices.

#23 Charlie69

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 10:50 AM

I have my transmission rebuilt and finishing the rebuild assembly on the motor. I took a different approach than most of the people on Ratsun. I wanted a rebuilt long block. So I searched out a rebuilder that I felt comfortable with. Some of the criteria for determining which rebuilder was, reputation, complaints online and with BBB, quality of parts used, number of years in business, quality of workmanship, was all phases of the long block rebuild done in house, 1 year unlimited mileage guarantee, and were they easy to work with.

Well after approximately 2 months I found Five Star Engine & Cylinder Head remanufacturing in Glendale AZ.

They were great to work with. They even picked up my motor from my house for no charge.

They tore down, thermally cleaned all parts, bored 30 over, turned crank, rods 20, mains 10, reconditioned rods, completely remanufactured cylinder head with new stock cam, reassembled long block with all new timing components, new oil pump, brass freeze plugs & complete gasket set. Five Star timed and adjusted the valve backlass cold. This all comes with a 1 year unlimited mileage guarantee. $1192.42

The motor came back looking good. Five Star painted block black, timing cover matte silver and gave me a can of each hi temp paint for finishing the parts for the motor.

I had to clean and assemble oil pump pickup, oil pan, and valve cover. Also had to install new oil pump (supplied with long block from Five Star), shaft, distributor, intake, carb, and exhaust.

I had NAPA Machine Shop vat (hot tank) oil pan, dip stick tube, motor mount brackets, oil pump pick up, crank pulley, alternator & AC compressor brackets. I also had them professionally clean the intake and exhaust manifold. All these parts were also glass beaded. $50.00 I live in a neighbor hood that has a strict and well inforced HOA rules. So I clean parts at my brothers house when I can. In Maricopa County that I live in there are dust cops and we had one visit from them at my brothers house for sand blasting. No fine or written warning as they did not catch us in the act of sand blasting. That was from when we sand blasted my frame for my truck. We will be media blasting my cab and bed soon so if we get a fine I want it to be for something worth while not just a bunch of little parts.

All and all I am pleased with this rebuild as long as it holds up and time will tell.

The transmission was rebuilt by Sav-On Transmission in Pheonix. Ernie owns and operates Sav-On and is a good friend of my fabricator brother Garret. Complete automatic trans rebuild with new torque converter, and 1 year unlimmitted mileage guaratee, $430.00

I will be installing the motor and trans this weekend. I will be working on the cab next week calculating installing a 1980 720 firewall and transmission tunnel. This is to install 1980 brake master cylinder & booster, brake lines, AC/heater, gas pedal, and wiper motor (updating for comfort & parts availability). This might invovle reworking the fresh air intake for the cab.

I will post pictures as soon as I start the assembly and take some.

Here is my build link:
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Here is my 86 720 2WD King Cab Thread

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Here is my 85 720 2WD King Cab ST Build Thread

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#24 nukeday

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 06:52 PM

Sounds like it's coming along, Charlie. You've done a great job on this truck, can't wait to see it come together. :D

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#25 Charlie69

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Posted 02 September 2009 - 04:34 PM

After much trial & error I decided to try a 521 oil pan instead of the 620 oil pan. The pictures tell all. The silver pan is the 620 & the black pan is the 521. This will take care of my clearance problems with the firewall & the tunnel hopefully. Also hoping to loose the 2" lift.
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Here is my 86 720 2WD King Cab Thread

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Here is my 85 720 2WD King Cab ST Build Thread

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#26 Charlie69

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 05:44 PM

This is what I got done today on my truck.

I started with this.
 

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This is what I ended up with.

 

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Here is my build link:
http://community.rat...s-66-520-build/

 

Here is my 86 720 2WD King Cab Thread

http://community.rat...20-king-cab-dd/

 

Here is my 85 720 2WD King Cab ST Build Thread

http://community.rat...20-king-cab-st/

 

Here is my Photo Bucket Album Link:
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#27 hessianben

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 05:46 PM

you haz a shiny.

#28 Charlie69

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 02:57 PM

What I did today on my truck. I have been cleaning parts and chasing threads for days. I am finally getting to start assembling my motor to get it ready for bolting the trans to it.

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Well I got motor mounts brackets, crank pulley, alternator (Saturn) and started on exhaust manifold when I noticed that the VHT flat black paint did not stick to my exhaust manifold. So I will have to sand blast it again and try a different paint. All the engine paint I have used till the exhaust manifold has been Aervoe brand and have had no problems.


Here is my build link:
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Here is my 86 720 2WD King Cab Thread

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Here is my 85 720 2WD King Cab ST Build Thread

http://community.rat...20-king-cab-st/

 

Here is my Photo Bucket Album Link:
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#29 dat521kid

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 06:11 PM

nice!
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#30 Charlie69

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 06:43 PM

Here is a little info on the motor rebuild. I bought 3 L20B's and 2 automatic transmissions. The reason I bought 3 motors was first I want a virgin bore, second I found 2 with automatic transmissions in trucks. The first motor I bought was already bored & sloppy W58 head. The second had an automatic transmision I wanted but when I tore it down the flex plate was bad and it had a U67 head that had stripped valve cover and stripped intake holes the block was virgin. The third motor came with another automatic transmission tear down reveal good U67 head, new flex plate, starter, distributor, alternator & carburetor. Both trans had good clean fluid in them. Had one rebuilt by Save-on transmission for $400. Keeping the other automatic for a future project.

I bought a complete 1980 720 truck for $100 for parts have not taken that L20B apart yet. sold 5 speed for $50 and gave cab & bed to my brother for helping me, scrapped his old bed, cab and all the scrap metal that came with the 720 got $74 for the scrap metal, so iv made $24 and still have a complete 1980 chassis and motor and all the interior parts.


I used Five Star Engine Rebuilders 6817 N 56th Ave # B Glendale AZ 85301 623 939-0345, five working days for complete rebuild.

Five Starr picked up motor from my house, tore down, hot tanked block, chemically washed head, brushed oil & water ports, bored, turn main 0.20 & 0.10 rod journals, all new bearings, new 0.30 over pistons, rings, timing set, reconditioned rods, new oil pump, complete gasket set (Fel Pro). Completely rebuilt head, 3 angle valve grind, new cam, seals, guides, line bored, checked all surfaces and milled as needed, painted block and timing cover, installed all new brass freeze plugs, and reassembled. This cost me $1,100. 1 year unlimited mileage guarantee. Very pleased with the service from Five Star Engines, and they are a busy shop just well organized.

I am slowly getting my motor & trans ready to put in. Before I put my motor & trans in I am going to set my cb & bed on the 1980 chassis and decide if I will run the newer chassis. Pictures to come.
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Here is my build link:
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Here is my 86 720 2WD King Cab Thread

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Here is my 85 720 2WD King Cab ST Build Thread

http://community.rat...20-king-cab-st/

 

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#31 slam_dat_sun

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 07:07 PM

Very nice work Charlie , cya in the morning

#32 Charlie69

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Posted 22 November 2009 - 01:19 AM

Here is the start of my custom wiring diagam. I have drawn the engine compartment and most of the lighting. Next will be the interior.

I am using all Datsun/Nissan parts and wire. I have six harnesses that I am taking sections out of. I will be running stock gauges and dash with a 1980 720 AC and heater. Power windows & door locks and alarm. Eventually I hope to install cruise control so I am adding that circuit also. Also setting up for GPS, audio, video.

This diagram when I am done will print on 3 - 8.5" x 11" sheets of paper in porttrait mode. Once I start on the actual harness assembly I will edit the diagram for actual wire changes and colors used. I am drawing this diagram in SmartDraw 6. it is working better than other software I have tried.

I harvested a a power distribution center from an Infiniti Q 45 to handle my power needs.

 

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Heres the start of the diagram

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Here is my build link:
http://community.rat...s-66-520-build/

 

Here is my 86 720 2WD King Cab Thread

http://community.rat...20-king-cab-dd/

 

Here is my 85 720 2WD King Cab ST Build Thread

http://community.rat...20-king-cab-st/

 

Here is my Photo Bucket Album Link:
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#33 pharouh

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Posted 22 November 2009 - 06:59 AM

Great work Charlie! Take it slow and do it right the first time.

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Posted 24 November 2009 - 03:27 PM

Looking good man! I was glad to see you "might" be able to loose the body lift.:cool:

I like the way your doing it though,slow and steady right?;)

That wiring harness looks like a real headache...take time to breath!:D
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#35 Charlie69

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Posted 25 November 2009 - 02:49 PM

Hey, thanks for the kind words and encouragement.

Now why would I want to buy an aftermarket harness?laugh.gif :lol:laugh.gif
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Now let the party begin!: :crying:

 

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These are 4' x 8' tables, wish I had 2 more.laugh.gif

I should have it done by New Years Eve (2020). :rofl:


Here is my build link:
http://community.rat...s-66-520-build/

 

Here is my 86 720 2WD King Cab Thread

http://community.rat...20-king-cab-dd/

 

Here is my 85 720 2WD King Cab ST Build Thread

http://community.rat...20-king-cab-st/

 

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 08:28 PM

looking good Charlie. were you able to do any work over Turkey Day?

to hell with this "taking it slow" stuff, man-- I need you well out in front of me so I can copy you! :lol:

I'll do a manual transmission in my 520 though.

Say, do you have a L20B timing cover for sale? The parts truck did not come with one. (Or a radiator)

I might have missed it: Which radiator are you planning on using?

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 08:38 PM

For some reason I'm not subscribed to your thread anymore.....so this should fix that :)

OH...I realize the E1 doesn't make a lot of heat, but I used bar-b-que paint on the exh mani.....still looks good!
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#38 Charlie69

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 11:16 PM

Steve, I am running a new 1976 620 Radiator 3 core with the auto trams cooler tank built in. I have to drill 2 holes to make it work. I bought it from:

http://www.hawkesradiator.com/

As far as a timing cover do you mean the plate to cover the oval hole just below the valve cover on the front of the head? See Picture.

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If this is what you are asking about I will look tomorrow. I will post a picture of the spare radiator I have. Crack heads got to it and cut out half of the core.

I have a 720 radiator but they are to wide.

Mike: I used Zynolyte High Heat 1200 degree paint.


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http://community.rat...s-66-520-build/

 

Here is my 86 720 2WD King Cab Thread

http://community.rat...20-king-cab-dd/

 

Here is my 85 720 2WD King Cab ST Build Thread

http://community.rat...20-king-cab-st/

 

Here is my Photo Bucket Album Link:
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Posted 30 November 2009 - 09:33 AM

Yup. thats the one. dunno if they are hard to find.. that is so far down the road that I was asking in passing, but if you got one I'll buy it from ya.

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as you can tell, mine is missing off of the crusty bucket.

Do you have any better pix than what is on your PB album of the motor mounts? I would like to know what I am talking about when I have someone weld the new ones in for me. :eek:

thx for the tip on the rad. :cool: I clicked on the link and got a chat window. The guy quoted me between $99 and $299, but I must say that was some of the best online customer service I have ever had. I'll definitely bookmark them and be back if I cant find a pick-n-pull option for less.
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#40 Charlie69

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Posted 30 November 2009 - 12:44 PM

Mine cost around $200 last summer and it was shipped from Colorado. I have a cutup one you could maybe get recored. there are hawkes radiators here in AZ. I am sure they will ship any where.

Also watch the parts for sale section here on Ratsun, I have seen 2 new 620 radiators for sale since I bought mine.

I will look this afternoon for that inspection cover plate.

Here is my build link:
http://community.rat...s-66-520-build/

 

Here is my 86 720 2WD King Cab Thread

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Here is my 85 720 2WD King Cab ST Build Thread

http://community.rat...20-king-cab-st/

 

Here is my Photo Bucket Album Link:
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