Charlie69 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 I had knee replacement surgery yesterday and was sent home today. Surgery went perfect and I am doing better than I did on the first knee. I start therapy Tuesday so uphill I go! 4 Quote Link to comment
wayno Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 Are you going to be able to run 60mph? 1 Quote Link to comment
Charlie69 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 Six Million Dollar Man doses not have a chance now! LOL Actually i was advised to keep the running to a minimum. I do not want to were out my new knees prematurely. 3 Quote Link to comment
XXL Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 I needed replacements years ago (I have a congenital defect in the cartilage and have had 3x surgeries on them over the years, to the point that there's nothing left to fix). I declined the replacements because they typically last 15 years, which means I'd be getting another set about now. Yikes! Instead, I just moan and groan, use braces, an occasional cane, ice packs, and pain meds. Oh, and complain a lot to my wife. Good luck with the PT! 2 Quote Link to comment
Charlie69 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 Thank you XXL. I am hoping that after all the PT is done and I am walking good that having the knew knees will help eliminate some of the pain in my hips and my lower back. Quote Link to comment
gene knight Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 charlie69: i texted your sister to see how your surgery went and she said it went good, glad to hear that. i have my surgery on the 26th Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 Six Million Dollar Man doses not have a chance now! LOL Actually i was advised to keep the running to a minimum. I do not want to were out my new knees prematurely. ...so in other words, you're going to be wearing out your ass for awhile. lol ;) 2 Quote Link to comment
ol' 320 Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 Hey Charlie.... my best to you. Good luck with your PT. Will touch base soon to catch up on issue we discussed recently. Eric 1 Quote Link to comment
Charlie69 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 ...so in other words, you're going to be wearing out your ass for awhile. lol ;) Mike according to some people I know I am all ass so there should be no problem in the ass department. 2 Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 Good to hear surgery went well. Hopefully the healing part goes as smoothly. :) 1 Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 Mike according to some people I know I am all ass so there should be no problem in the ass department. I can easily relate.....I get that a lot myself, too. lol I guess we become what we focus on the most! ;) 2 Quote Link to comment
Charlie69 Posted December 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Thank you all for the kind words and encouragement. Quote Link to comment
Charlie69 Posted January 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Been 3 weeks since surgery, 54 staples came out last Thursday. Seems that I am having more pain with this one but will just keep going forward. Gracie has run head first into the knee playing. She is constantly trying to sit on it. Today I came home from Physical Therapy and she was playing and bit the shit out of my knee. My Dr told me I could not hurt it but I think Gracie is trying to brake it. Gracie is almost 10 months now and weighs about 95 pounds. She is a handfull, hard headed and she thinks she is boss. I hope to be able to start doing some work in the garage in the next couple weeks. Shawn told me if I needed help to let him know. He told me that he did not care if all I could do is sit in the chair. I think if I sit in the chair I will be out of Shawn's way so he can get more done faster. LOL 2 Quote Link to comment
hobospyder Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Bite her hard enough that she knows your there on the ear, just inside of painful. Should straighten out right after 2 Quote Link to comment
thisismatt Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Can you hobble around enough without shaking the beer? 2 Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Bite her hard enough that she knows your there on the ear, just inside of painful. Should straighten out right after I've know a couple other dog people that have done that. I was a bit shocked to watch it the first time, and surprised to see the immediate reaction. The one guy had 5 dogs....loved them more than anyone else....including his wife. When the big one started to nip at him, he bit his ear.....reminded him who's boss. The other was a dog trainer for the military many moons ago. I'm pretty sure it was just a one time thing. ......hhhmmmm........is that why guys nibble on a girls ear when they're dating? LOL!! 2 Quote Link to comment
XXL Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 There always needs to be at least one contrarian per topic, so here goes... "Military" does not = 'good' ... it is a very specific set of skills, and in the dog training world, I would argue that most people would not want their pet animals trained as military animals. One is play, the other is work. If course, some people want both, but in my experience as a long-time dog trainer, both isn't truly possible. As for biting back... I have mixed feelings on that, and there are other ways to fix undesirable behavior without corporal punishment. Contrarian out. Hope you continue to recover quickly, Charlie. 2 Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 I was basically saying that I've seen it done......not necessarily saying it was good or bad or that I'd even consider doing it. lol But.....if biting my wife's ear will keep her in line......I'm all for that! ;) hhhhmmm......but she may decide she needs to bite something of mine to keep me inline....................................reconsidering the ear thing. lol 1 Quote Link to comment
DanielC Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 The last two Great Danes I had. This was when we first brought Helga, the puppy home to meet King. I think King was thinking "Why did you bring this obnoxious energetic thing to me?" When I first took both dogs to the dog park, King was very protective of her, and would not let any other dogs close to her. This was in January, 2006. Helga, in a pasture, soon after. Helga, with her favorite toy, that day. I think she did this head tilt when she heard the camera noise. A few months later, after a growth spurt. This is a toy she found at the dog park, a new best toy in the whole wide world, for today. These are Kong balls. I would buy a box of the smallest dog biscuits I could find, and put the dog biscuits in the ball, and give the ball to Helga, and she would play with the ball in the house, trying to get the dog biscuits out. This ended up being her favorite outside toy, a Jolly ball. I have got the jolly ball, and she wants it. She knew sitting was polite way of asking me to give her what she wanted. Just a picture of Helga running in the pasture Helga lines having her belly rubbed. She is getting older in these pictures. This is the last picture of Helga, before I said good bye. She had developed bone cancer in her hip, and could no longer run, and I had to help her from a sit to standing in the last few days. Early summer, 2016. A tired dog is a good dog. Helga was playful, really playful. With both King and Helga, when they were young, I would play a game, "Bite this". This is how it worked. the puppy would "mouth", or gently bite, sometimes not so gently, bite my hand. I would take their paw, or tail, and put it in the dogs mouth, and they would end up biting them selves. I do not know if that taught the puppy "do not bite" or "biting hurts others" Later, and when we were playing with the Jolly ball, if I got my hand on the handle of the jolly ball before Helga got her mouth on the handle, and she then felt my hand. she would immediately let me have the ball. You have to understand playing with the Jolly ball was a very intense game of keep away, that Helga enjoyed winning. I think Gracie wants to play with you. She does not know how humans play, she knows how dogs play. Dogs sometimes play aggressively. Gracie needs a place where she can run. Take Gracie to a large dog park, if you do not have areas at home where she can run. 3 Quote Link to comment
XXL Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 When Atlas was just a baby (6 months old or so, he's 3 now), he and I were playing and as I leaned down, he jumped up... he got this permanent bump on the nose (I took this pic a few minutes ago. We are watching TV in the mancave)... ... I got a crack in my supraorbital ridge, a couple of stitches, and had to calm down my wife, who (from the amount of blood, and the fact I was out cold) thought I was dead. 2 Quote Link to comment
hobospyder Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 I've know a couple other dog people that have done that. I was a bit shocked to watch it the first time, and surprised to see the immediate reaction. The one guy had 5 dogs....loved them more than anyone else....including his wife. When the big one started to nip at him, he bit his ear.....reminded him who's boss. The other was a dog trainer for the military many moons ago. I'm pretty sure it was just a one time thing. ......hhhmmmm........is that why guys nibble on a girls ear when they're dating? LOL!! I've always had good results. And that might be part of it 1 Quote Link to comment
hobospyder Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 There always needs to be at least one contrarian per topic, so here goes... "Military" does not = 'good' ... it is a very specific set of skills, and in the dog training world, I would argue that most people would not want their pet animals trained as military animals. One is play, the other is work. If course, some people want both, but in my experience as a long-time dog trainer, both isn't truly possible. As for biting back... I have mixed feelings on that, and there are other ways to fix undesirable behavior without corporal punishment. Contrarian out. Hope you continue to recover quickly, Charlie. you're not supposed to bite hard enough to cause actual pain, just mild discomfort. No5 corporal punishment it's actually how they establish dominance themselves. 1 Quote Link to comment
XXL Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 you're not supposed to bite hard enough to cause actual pain, just mild discomfort. No5 corporal punishment it's actually how they establish dominance themselves. You and I are talking about philosophical differences here. I understand very well "the dog mind." I did obedience training for decades, and have trained scores of dogs to CM, CGC, CD, and CDX titles, including at least a dozen of my own. The philosophy you're espousing is that you represent the "top dog" in a pack of dogs. I understand that, but (and you will find universal debate on both sides in the dog training world) I don't see ME as a dog. I see me as a person... yes, I'm "the boss," but I'm not a dog, and none of my other human family and friends are dogs (and my cats aren't dogs, and the wildlife on my property, and so on)... so we don't pretend. While letting dogs be dogs (as @DanielC correctly pointed out in his previous post), they can be taught to understand that not every living creature is a dog... or a member of their particular pack (actually, they already know this quite well, so actively training around this fact is not that far-fetched <-- pun ). My dogs, and dogs I have trained, all learned that the handler is both _in charge_ AND _not a dog member of their pack_. It works. Biting the dog is a fear tactic (regardless of how 'gently' you do it). I don't find value in teaching members of my family to fear me. I suppose it's why I didn't beat my kid either (though there are plenty of times I wanted to). Again, just philosophical differences. 1 Quote Link to comment
Charlie69 Posted January 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 Hey Mark Does this still exist? 2 Quote Link to comment
Charlie69 Posted January 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 The last two Great Danes I had. This was when we first brought Helga, the puppy home to meet King. I think King was thinking "Why did you bring this obnoxious energetic thing to me?" When I first took both dogs to the dog park, King was very protective of her, and would not let any other dogs close to her. This was in January, 2006. Helga, in a pasture, soon after. Helga, with her favorite toy, that day. I think she did this head tilt when she heard the camera noise. A few months later, after a growth spurt. This is a toy she found at the dog park, a new best toy in the whole wide world, for today. These are Kong balls. I would buy a box of the smallest dog biscuits I could find, and put the dog biscuits in the ball, and give the ball to Helga, and she would play with the ball in the house, trying to get the dog biscuits out. This ended up being her favorite outside toy, a Jolly ball. I have got the jolly ball, and she wants it. She knew sitting was polite way of asking me to give her what she wanted. Just a picture of Helga running in the pasture Helga lines having her belly rubbed. She is getting older in these pictures. This is the last picture of Helga, before I said good bye. She had developed bone cancer in her hip, and could no longer run, and I had to help her from a sit to standing in the last few days. Early summer, 2016. A tired dog is a good dog. Helga was playful, really playful. With both King and Helga, when they were young, I would play a game, "Bite this". This is how it worked. the puppy would "mouth", or gently bite, sometimes not so gently, bite my hand. I would take their paw, or tail, and put it in the dogs mouth, and they would end up biting them selves. I do not know if that taught the puppy "do not bite" or "biting hurts others" Later, and when we were playing with the Jolly ball, if I got my hand on the handle of the jolly ball before Helga got her mouth on the handle, and she then felt my hand. she would immediately let me have the ball. You have to understand playing with the Jolly ball was a very intense game of keep away, that Helga enjoyed winning. I think Gracie wants to play with you. She does not know how humans play, she knows how dogs play. Dogs sometimes play aggressively. Gracie needs a place where she can run. Take Gracie to a large dog park, if you do not have areas at home where she can run. DanielC thank you for sharing these pictures and story. Beautiful Great Danes. Love the story of King the protector! Quote Link to comment
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