hobbes_the_cat Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Just finished painting my goon!!! I need some advice from ones who have taken a 510 down this far. Obviously the headliner needs to go in before the windshield but will it cause me much problems if I install the dash before the windshield? I'd like to get the dash back in so I can move it under its own power but not if it'll make my window install a huge pain. Anyone installed the windshield with or without the dash installed? 1 Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Here's how i prefer to do it. Dash out, glass out, headliner out, Headliner in, glass in, dash in. I have done the windshield several times with the dash in place, but it's a fair bit easier to do it while it is out... 3 Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 What year dash? On the later ones you sort of get enough access by just removing the pad and the two metal panels up ahead of the pad. 3 Quote Link to comment
hobbes_the_cat Posted February 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 It's a 69 dash. That's what I figured was the case but I wanted to check with someone that's done it before. Was hoping to put the dash in before the glass but I may just hold off... 1 Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted February 18, 2018 Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 It's a 69 dash. That's what I figured was the case but I wanted to check with someone that's done it before. Was hoping to put the dash in before the glass but I may just hold off... You might try just putting in a few bolts finger tight and plugging it in? That way it could be easily removed later? In the end, I feel like not doing it "correctly" just means more work for you. 1 Quote Link to comment
hobbes_the_cat Posted February 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 Yeah I don't need more work. Now I need to round up a headliner! 1 Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted February 18, 2018 Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 Yeah I don't need more work. Now I need to round up a headliner! There's plenty on ebay? https://www.ebay.com/itm/DATSUN-510-WAGON-BLACK-HEADLINER-NEW-IN-BOX-ALL-PRE-SEWN-READY-TO-INSTALL/311867855215?hash=item489cc5d16f:g:vpAAAOSw0HVWDH1X&vxp=mtr 1 Quote Link to comment
fivetenguy Posted February 18, 2018 Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 Love the color on the wagon. No experience with the 69 dash, but I've done several 70's 510 windshields with the dash on without issues. Same goes for the 620's. Although, I agree with you two to do the dash before the windshield. By the way, what size and offset are those wheels? Do they clear the rear quarters? SSR's? 1 Quote Link to comment
DanielC Posted February 18, 2018 Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 You only need three wires to crank and run the engine. On a 521, one of the wire harness plugs between the engine room harness and the dash harness supplies power to the ignition switch, and then takes power to the coil, and starter. 1 Quote Link to comment
hobbes_the_cat Posted February 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 Thanks for the tips guys. DatsunFreak: yes I'll probably be going the ebay route. Looks like the best priced option. Fivetenguy: yeah I'm happy with the color. It's code 817 "dark yellow" or "cream sand" depending on what chart you look at. My paint guy friend mixed a perfect match. The SSR's are staggered 15" and I think they'll rub on the back but we'll see. Came with the car and I haven't measured them yet. DanielC: I'm not to concerned about firing the engine but the steering column bolts to the dash so having the dash installed will help a bunch with rolling it around. 1 Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted February 18, 2018 Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 I'm not to concerned about firing the engine but the steering column bolts to the dash so having the dash installed will help a bunch with rolling it around. It should bolt to the dash/pedal support? Like so... 1 Quote Link to comment
hobbes_the_cat Posted March 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 Ok so I bought a headliner and started installing it. The previous owner labeled the bows so I’m pretty sure I got them in the right order. Problem is I can’t get them to stay up right, they keep spinning and drooping down even when I put tension on the headliner. Is there some sort of clip or wire to keep them upright that maybe the PO lost? Also there is a cluster 3 holes in a triangle shape that the bows hang from on each side, is there a specific one of the 3 holes to use? 1 Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 owner labeled the bows so I’m pretty sure I got them in the right order. Problem is I can’t get them to stay up right, they keep spinning and drooping down even when I put tension on the headliner. For me, normally the tension of the headliner keeps them straight. Also never seen them fall over either... Maybe a wee bit of epoxy to hold them in place? 1 Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 Or even some really strong tape? No one will ever see it in there, so... ^_^ 1 Quote Link to comment
hobbes_the_cat Posted March 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 Thanks Freak, you mentioned tension and there was zero tension in any of the bows, all were loose. I was putting them in the lower holes and they needed to be in the upper holes. All good now! Holding perfectly. 1 Quote Link to comment
hobbes_the_cat Posted March 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 Well I spoke too soon, they all fit and hold tension fine when the back is not hooked into the channel but when the back is hooked in the front two bows can’t stay upright. Maybe it needs to be hotter so I can stretch it more... 1 Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 Maybe it needs to be hotter so I can stretch it more... Definitely a good idea to leave it out in the sun for a few hours first. :thumbup: 2 Quote Link to comment
Charlie69 Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 Try keeping the headliner in your house in your warmest room for a few hours before installing. 1 Quote Link to comment
hobbes_the_cat Posted April 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Ok so I’m not finished with the headliner but I have it clamped in place. I kept having trouble with the bows staying up right. The more I looked at other people’s pics I realized the bows are supposed to have washers on the ends. Once I installed those it added just enough tension to keep all but one of the bows up right. The front bow I ended up making a tie wire to hook it the the roof frame and that’s keeping it where it needs to be. I think I got it now! Just need some more heat, stretching and glue to finish up. Thanks for all the tips guys. 1 Quote Link to comment
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