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#21 carterb

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Posted 24 January 2018 - 07:11 PM

Then last weekend I got a call saying the wagon was loaded and ready.  It had three rolling wheels and put up much less of a fight going onto the trailer.  The two brother-in-laws delivered the car so I hardly had to lift a finger.  Much better arrangement this time! 

 

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#22 carterb

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Posted 24 January 2018 - 07:17 PM

I haven't had a chance to wash down the wagon yet and between these two cars and my poor dented up bluebirds, I'm sure I'm not making any friends in the neighborhood so I'll be dealing with them as quickly as I can. 

 

Neither of them will see the road again but I will try to save as many parts as possible.  That was the whole idea after all - keep this stuff out of the crusher and available for the community.

 

There are only a few things I know I want to keep for myself and a few things for Swamp Thing so if you see something you like, let me know and I'm sure we can come to an agreement.  PM me.

 

I'll keep the thread going as I dig.

 

Oh, when they delivered the wagon, they delivered the titles.  Both cars were purchased within 2 days of each other back in 1981!  They have likely been sitting ever since! 



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Posted 24 January 2018 - 07:22 PM

heywier, saw your post.  Sorry about your bad experience.  All I can say is that these kids lost their dad to old age and are now faced with cleaning up years of accumulation.  They were an extreme pleasure to deal with.  They both grew up in the area and it was fun hearing about what it was like here when they were kids.  I wish them the best of luck with the rest of their process and hope they find a trouble free buyer for their property when they finish getting it cleared.  It is a ton of work!  Hopefully it was helpful to them to get these cars off the lot.

 

P.S.  Although I've been calling them The Twins, since the wagon is a '69 and the 4dr is a '71 I guess that's kind of impossible.  Maybe they are just brothers.  Or, given the color - "Blues Brothers"?



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Posted 24 January 2018 - 07:38 PM

Lol. Im an extreme pleasure to deal with and use it to my gain, as Im a salesman!

 

My dad has warehouses of shit, that me and my brother are going to pick up with loaders and load into dumpsters.

 

He did it to himself.  I know there are rare good parts in the piles of shit, I just dont care.

 

Clear the property and off it.  

 

Just like your storys kids, they have been dealing/cleaning/moving his shit their whole lives.

 

Sell your shit hoarders.  Its going to go into the garbage.

 

Sorry for thread jacking :)


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Posted 24 January 2018 - 07:46 PM

No problem.  It's wise advise.  My wife and I have been talking to our parents for a while, warning them that stuff is stuff and we won't be saving much of it when they eventually have to go - encouraging them to get rid of stuff while they can.

 

And here I am dragging these two hulks onto my lawn.  Hahaha...



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Posted 25 January 2018 - 01:12 PM

Carter,

My folks have lived in their home since '59. The yard is well groomed and everything has its place. What they have on the surface seems modest, but when you start digging around in the garage, shed, basement, attic and storage room there is a huge amount of stuff. 

 

I'm no better, just far less organized.

 

What I will say is we both have extremely understanding wives.


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Posted 29 January 2018 - 01:37 PM

 

What I will say is we both have extremely understanding wives.

 

No kidding.  We were married on June 25th, 1994.  We have celebrated every 25th since.  Not just every June 25th, but every 25th.  We call it our "monthaversarary".  Well, we were all set to go out to dinner a couple nights ago and I got a text about noon from a guy that was moving and needed to get rid of some of his Datsun parts so Brenda and I drove down to Seattle to fill up the back of the 620 with 510 parts.  We still made it to dinner too but...  She's pretty awesome.



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Posted 29 January 2018 - 01:44 PM

Finally go the wagon moved back to it's final parking spot and cleaned up.  Poor thing.  It's pretty trashed.  : (

 

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I was hopeful that the front clip might be good for Granny but the brake fluid took the paint off of the left frame rail and shock tower and the tower has subsequently rusted thru...

 

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Might still be workable.  Will know more when I get the fenders off.

 

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So much stuff inside.  I'm afraid it is all trash.  Seats, door panels, etc are ripped and rotten.  Driveline and other mechanical components are all super rusty.

 

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Hood is really straight but completely rusted out up front.

 

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I started stripping the front end.  Got the wiring out, headlight buckets, trim, etc.  EVERY bolt needed to be drilled out so the process is slow.  Didn't quite get the fenders off.   Found I can't open the passengers door - that will make the fender removal a little tough. 

 

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Posted 29 January 2018 - 01:46 PM

They almost look presentable from this angle...

 

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I wonder what they looked like 35 years ago when they were purchased and parked.  Probably pretty darn nice!



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Posted 30 January 2018 - 12:55 PM

Emptied the wagon.  Everything was garbage.  What a shame.  Seats, door panels, all shredded by critters and rusty from the elements.  BW auto tranny in the back.  Garbage as well.  Rusty as an anchor - and just as useful.

 

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check out the rust hole!

 

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spent a lot of time carefully removing the dash assembly

 

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Paul needs a dash pad and this one looks nice.  Quick wipe with a wet rag:

 

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That'll do!

 

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I guess it's time to remove the doors and suspension and start cutting the shell.  Anyone need anything?  The left rear quarter is pretty nice.  I'm keeping the front clip I think.  We'll see...



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Posted 30 January 2018 - 01:16 PM

I see that nice 510 in back with a smashed front WTF???How these nice car keep getting smashed.  Dillions also .man I hate seeing that


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Posted 30 January 2018 - 05:52 PM

Got the doors and the rest of the front stripped after lunch.  Had to make hey while the sun shined.  Was supposed to rain all day so this was a nice surprise!

 

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Drivers door is nice.  Left rear door has some dents inside and out.  It was actually bolted shut with a little piece of bar stock.  ?!

 

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The passenger side doors are toast obviously but the glass is good and both rear doors have the rare vertical stainless piece between the main window and the 1/4 window.

 

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Driver side fender has dent in front and rot in the lower rear but otherwise could be useful for repair patches?

 

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NOT what I wanted to see.  Both upper frame rails are rotted through.

 

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Salvaged a few presentable parts.

 

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Front end stripped - no suspension or anything.  wiper motor and linkage out now as well.

 

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I will cut off the core support.  There are a couple guys that want that.

 

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The rockers and most of the floor look good.  I may keep all that in once cut.  Anyone need a 510 floor?

 

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Left rear 1/4 is pretty nice.

 

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If you are itching for a chunk of a wagon, let me know soon so I can make the best cuts.

 

Just need to pull the rear suspension, right cargo window, gas tank, and rear hatch and then it's sawzall time.  Unfortunately, I can't get the rear hatch open.  It may be rusted shut actually - the entire back of the cargo area along the hatch is nice and rotten.  The latch mechanism is frozen too but can't tell if it's frozen open or frozen shut.  Should be a fun puzzle...



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Posted 30 January 2018 - 05:55 PM

I see that nice 510 in back with a smashed front WTF???How these nice car keep getting smashed.  Dillions also .man I hate seeing that

 

Granny.

 

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The hope is that some of the parts from these two cars will get a couple smashed or project cars back on the road.  That's the whole point.



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Posted 30 January 2018 - 10:40 PM

I've heard the wagon front clips are slightly different. Jeff would know.

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 09:01 AM

There are some suspension differences - ride height and geometry - with different idler and/or pitman arms to compensate.

On the unibody itself, the wagon has triangular gussets linking the upper frame rail to the upper door post/A-pillar.  You can see it in the photos.

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 03:03 PM

............although the upper fender rails are rotted junk, FYI I seem to remember cutting up a Goon few years back, found that the back section of the upper fender rails were DOUBLE walled, where the Sedans were not........??

 

Nice job saving what you could!  Parts cars are getting harder to find.  I have a Sedan parts car right now, only parts car in the last 5++ years!  :crying:   

 

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 04:33 PM

I don't know about differences inside.  Just about the gusset.  Here is a sedan cut:

 

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Look at where the upper frame rail meets the firewall.  Then look at the same area here from the wagon.

 

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 04:39 PM

Amazingly, it did not rain again today so I finished up the dismantling and cutting.

 

Started by removing the rear hatch, that was a job!  The latch mechanism was frozen/rusted shut.

 

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But I won!

 

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Bummer it's so rusty on the bottom.  The rest of the skin is decent though and could make good patch panels?

 

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Core support cut just behind the T/C mounts

 

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Strut towers just in case someone needs to replace a screwed up set.  I'd actually like to do that on rice wagon.  The PO ran full size 280zx springs and it beat the towers to heck!

 

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tail lights, hatch spring cover, bumper brackets, bumper filler, all removed.

 

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Really nice left rear quarter

 

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 04:43 PM

Roof - good for patch panels or welding practice?

 

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Not much left now

 

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Cargo floor gone

 

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Complete rear end.  Should be low miles.  Off the road since '81.

 

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Floor does have some isolated rot but could be useful for patching.

 

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Some assembly required

 

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One down!

 

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 10:41 AM

Yup, I remember the Goon gussets......often added to Sedans looking at track duty!  I can't quite make out if the back section of the upper rail is double walled.........maybe look at that when you cut up the Sedan......??  I would be curious!