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Do a write up on putting together an EFI kit for $900 in a thread for those that will not buy my manifold.

 

I said for $900 you can buy new DCOE manifolds, throttle bodies, and fuel rails.  From Pierce and off Ebay and other places.  You don't offer an EFI kit for $900 nor did I mention one.  The only advantage I see for this setup is installing a turbo.  Not my cup of tea, and hopefully it fits around the master cylinder without impeding airflow.  Its a nice design for those who need it.  

 

Locally we have a casting shop that's relatively inexpensive.  It costs about $300 to have triple throttle bodies cast - 2 pieces each.  Then they need to be machined.  I run them on my flathead Ford - and they share a base design with the Weber downdraft.  In the long run its always cheaper to make casting tools than to individually machine each piece.  It minimizes material costs and reduces machine time.  Plus you can 3D print casting cores for low quantities.  The payoff is likely at around 20 units given the size of the components.  

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I said for $900 you can buy new DCOE manifolds, throttle bodies, and fuel rails. From Pierce and off Ebay and other places. You don't offer an EFI kit for $900 nor did I mention one. The only advantage I see for this setup is installing a turbo. Not my cup of tea, and hopefully it fits around the master cylinder without impeding airflow. Its a nice design for those who need it.

 

Locally we have a casting shop that's relatively inexpensive. It costs about $300 to have triple throttle bodies cast - 2 pieces each. Then they need to be machined. I run them on my flathead Ford - and they share a base design with the Weber downdraft. In the long run its always cheaper to make casting tools than to individually machine each piece. It minimizes material costs and reduces machine time. Plus you can 3D print casting cores for low quantities. The payoff is likely at around 20 units given the size of the components.

I said it before.

 

This stuff isn’t what you are looking for then.

 

I appreciate the input but this isn’t targeted at the budget drivers.

 

I get enough emails from the budget guys and you sound like the guy they should go to instead of me.

 

I don’t disagree that casting is cost effective in quantities, but I’m not interested in casting anything.

 

Thanks

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I said it before.

 

This stuff isn’t what you are looking for then.

 

I appreciate the input but this isn’t targeted at the budget drivers.

 

I get enough emails from the budget guys and you sound like the guy they should go to instead of me.

 

I don’t disagree that casting is cost effective in quantities, but I’m not interested in casting anything.

 

Thanks

typically machines dont cast and casters dont machine 

a machined manifold will be bad ass 

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This will be a bitchin manifold for the die hard L series guys that wanna fuck with everyone else and still gloat..

 

Even then most people that see it wouldn't think it's some cnc badass custom thing... fucking kids these days don't even know what webers are.. If I hear “nice ITB's“ from some punk at cars and coffee one more time I'm gonna lose my shit

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This will be a bitchin manifold for the die hard L series guys that wanna fuck with everyone else and still gloat..

 

Even then most people that see it wouldn't think it's some cnc badass custom thing... fucking kids these days don't even know what webers are.. If I hear “nice ITB's“ from some punk at cars and coffee one more time I'm gonna lose my shit

Educate them. I love hearing it for a good laugh.

 

I have concepts for the Turbo L motor and Non drawn up

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 If I hear “nice ITB's“ from some punk at cars and coffee one more time I'm gonna lose my shit

 

There was one local kid that took a pair of Solex carbs, and turned them into ITBs by grinding off the whole fuel system, float bowl included.

 

You can't fix stupid....

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I think what you're doing is very cool and I wouldn't worry about having application specific parts. If they make horsepower, and guys want them to fit in their cars/ trucks, they'll figure out how to make it fit.

 

Example - If it doesn't fit in a 620, I would take that as an opportunity to redesign the brake/clutch pedal layout to get rid of that stupid brake booster spacer. Move the clutch pedal/master over towards the door post and mount the brake booster right to the firewall. Clean up the appearance of the engine bay and get to run a really cool intake. Two birds with one stone...well, maybe not one stone.

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There was one local kid that took a pair of Solex carbs, and turned them into ITBs by grinding off the whole fuel system, float bowl included.

 

You can't fix stupid....

 

RIP carbs... sigh. 

 

I really wanna see a full on hardcore l series turbo efi build... cnc intake, full build lz23 with forged everything.. big ass borg warner turbo.... come on 500hp 4 cylinder L series haha

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I like what your making.

 

Another thing too is just making dcoe manifolds. From what I've seen the only twin weber manifold available new is the cannon one. My experiences with mine have been rather meh. I had to port the shit out of it and now it is paper thin. The nitrous nozzles are barely held in from anything and I'm scared to weld bungs on as its thin and cast aluminum. If you came up with a large runner Short length manifold to bolt up side drafts id be into that too.

 

At this point at this kind of cost Is it even worth running 45 or larger carbs when you can just go efi with the previously thought up manifold.... Hmmm..

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Just as an aside, I made a run of 4 EFI L20B manifolds last year, sold one to a member here and used one on a dyno mule later. Even at 450$-ish I only sold the one here, one locally, and one was kept for dyno testing. The last one is still sitting here waiting to be assembled and sold. Ratsun isn't the place to try and sell new parts, try over on the 510realm.

 

 

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I like what your making.

 

Another thing too is just making dcoe manifolds. From what I've seen the only twin weber manifold available new is the cannon one. My experiences with mine have been rather meh.

 

Pierce makes a decent one? Better than Cannon anyway...

 

https://www.piercemanifolds.com/product_p/MT-0037-C.html

 

I have a RallySport that is badass. It raises the carbs up higher for a straighter shot at the valves, and way better brake master clearance. PM me if interested

 

 

 

Sorry for the threadjack Matt.  ^_^ . 

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Pierce makes a decent one? Better than Cannon anyway...

 

https://www.piercemanifolds.com/product_p/MT-0037-C.html

 

I have a RallySport that is badass. It raises the carbs up higher for a straighter shot at the valves, and way better brake master clearance. PM me if interested

 

 

 

Sorry for the threadjack Matt.  ^_^ .

 

I'd like to see some specs on these.

 

Just as an aside, I made a run of 4 EFI L20B manifolds last year, sold one to a member here and used one on a dyno mule later. Even at 450$-ish I only sold the one here, one locally, and one was kept for dyno testing. The last one is still sitting here waiting to be assembled and sold. Ratsun isn't the place to try and sell new parts, try over on the 510realm.

Dyno results? I didn't even know about these either

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