njoz1200ute Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 I started a similar thread on the other forum. Anyone ever take a Chevy S10 3.4L and put in a Datsun 1200 and make it fit without cutting the firewall? Some have suggested the L27 buick motor out of early 90s GM cars. Quote Link to comment
datsunrides Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 I would think most 60* V6's would fit. I swapped a Mitsubishi 6G72 into a 72' Corolla wagon (about the same size engine bay as a 1200) and it fit reasonably well. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 A 3800 would be nice. Probably the most successful and numerous GM engine ever built. But what's wrong with a VGsomething????? 1 Quote Link to comment
njoz1200ute Posted January 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 VG is too expensive and nice. I want a crummy old carburetored motor. I can buy a whole 1995 Buick LeSabre for the cost of one VG motor Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 You can make a VG carb. They were available in Saudi Arabia. Get an L28 matchbox and have the end milled down. 1 Quote Link to comment
njoz1200ute Posted January 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Apparently the mistubishi motor was in a Dodge Stealth....haha what a crummy car. I almost want to do that motor just because it came from a Dodge Stealth. I really wanna do a V6 1200 Coupe! I have been watching the guys from Roadkill and their S10 turbo GM 3.4L v6 in their 240z. Looks like fun! Quote Link to comment
njoz1200ute Posted January 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 You can make a VG carb. They were available in Saudi Arabia. Get an L28 matchbox and have the end milled down. Import a whole engine from Saudi Arabia? Or you talking intake and carb? Quote Link to comment
Lockleaf Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 Intake and that's all. Quote Link to comment
carterb Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 David Carroll can take care of you... Look him up on facebook. Quote Link to comment
njoz1200ute Posted January 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 Wow guess i have no reason not to go VQ now. Everyones telling me keep it Nissan. So....which is more possible in a B110? Vq30 or Vq35 Quote Link to comment
Lockleaf Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 That stuff is VG not VQ. Go VQ you are on your own. Quote Link to comment
Lockleaf Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 But vg can be vg33 or even overbored with q45 pistons and be vg34. 1 Quote Link to comment
carterb Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 Why do what other people want? Do what you want. 2 Quote Link to comment
tr8er Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 Why do what other people want? Do what you want. Don't tell him what to do. 2 Quote Link to comment
hang_510 Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 Wow guess i have no reason not to go VQ now. Get started. 1 Quote Link to comment
docbainey Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 Twin turbo 60 deg GM V6. The 60 deg cyl angle gives more room then a 90 deg design http://datsun1200.com/modules/mediawiki/index.php?title=Engine_Swaps&redirect=no#V6 Datsun 1200 Wiki - Engine swaps Quote Link to comment
njoz1200ute Posted January 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 My constraints are money. Not modifying the firewall. And must be V6 and carburetored. Im not dealing with ecu wiring, sensors, antitheft, and all that shit VG motor with carb conversion Buick L27 V6 carburetored Vortec V6 with carb conversion Those are my options so far. The buick is going to be the cheapest. Quote Link to comment
njoz1200ute Posted January 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 I have been confusing VG and VQ in this thread Quote Link to comment
tr8er Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 I don't really know this, but I'd guess the VG will end up less expensive in the end simply because of the support and existing products 1 Quote Link to comment
Lockleaf Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 I think he's right about the L27 aka the 3800. They made millions of that engine series for many years, and like the small block they made frequent improvements. I would look into what it takes to use a late model block with a carb and hope it's as easy as installing a distributor and an intake manifold. Even the last gen 3800s will bolt right up to gm 60 degree rwd transmissions. Quote Link to comment
njoz1200ute Posted January 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 With the vortec V6 apparently you buy a Edelbrock intake and a Holley 500cfm carb and it bolts on. Buy an aftermarket HEI coil and dizzy and bobs your uncle. Not the case with the L27 apparently. No provision for a distributor. From the 3 forums i read off Google everyone says no go. I find it hard to believe myself. I bet one of the early ones circa mid80s would be carbureted? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 When I saw V6 Datsun, anyone ever done this? I thought VG right away. Where possible keep it Datsun but as there was no V6 Datsun, then a Nissan engine. Cutting the heart out of a Datsun and replacing with a 'big three' power plant is just wrong somehow. Like a 283 in a '64 Mustang, a 390 in a '70 Chevelle, a 396 in place of a HEMI 'Cuda. Quote Link to comment
datsunrides Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 My constraints are money. Not modifying the firewall. And must be V6 and carburetored. Im not dealing with ecu wiring, sensors, antitheft, and all that shit VG motor with carb conversion Buick L27 V6 carburetored Vortec V6 with carb conversion Those are my options so far. The buick is going to be the cheapest. With the VG, 3800, and Vortec being 90* designs, they may be a little more difficult to install due to the width. Based on your constraints and probably being the easiest to install, I would look at the following 60* V6. GM 2.8/3.1/3.4 I would look at getting something from a Camaro/Firebird/S10 and swap on a 2.8 carb manifold from any number of GM cars/trucks and get a weber kit as the stock Rochester carb is garbage. Another nice thing is these were installed in a bunch of different models so there are plenty of options for oil pans, exhaust manifolds, accessory drives, etc. Plentiful usually means cheap too. There is some aftermarket support for these if you decide to want to hop it up down the road. Ford 2.8/2.9/4.0 These are a much older design engine and the 2.8 especially is not known for it's reliability (heads crack). I believe the early 80's 2.9 were carbed but the 4.0's would need to be converted. Mainly found in Rangers. There is also a 3.0, but I don't think those were ever offered carbed. Just a quick note on fuel injection, if you stay pre OBDII (1997/8) the wiring is fairly simple, even easier if it is a mid 80's TBI setup as they still used a dizzy. It also opens up a few more options. BTW, my 1200 is about 28" between the strut towers at the point the exhaust manifolds would fit. The Mitsu 60* V6 is 23" at the valve covers and about 27" at the manifolds. I don't have something like a VG sitting around to see how much wider that engine is. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 The 2.8 was the biggest piece of shit. I went to local wrecking yards looking for one. They all rolled their eyes. Now the 3800 is different. Quote Link to comment
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