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#1 Icehouse

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Posted 24 November 2017 - 05:03 PM

Event: 

 

Here is the event we hope to participate in.   http://evergreenspee...nowball-enduro/

 

 

 

Drivers:

 

Me (Icehouse)

Carter 

Sam 

 

 

 

Car:

 

The car needs to be stock aka anything you could get on the car through it's production run.  We are still going to be in the back since the popular car seems to be the Acura Integra.  We are going to run the 4.3 gears out of Carters "Granny" with a SSS L18 with SU's.  I think that should help.  The car has to run 60 series tread wear 400+ tires which can't cost over 60 each new. 

 

I'm sure I'm forgetting some stuff, we will update you as the progress unfolds.  

 

 

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Posted 24 November 2017 - 07:02 PM

The heart of every good racecar is the motor right?  We are within the rules to run an L-18 which are not always easy to find by my friend Dave had one available so a deal was struck.

 

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We got together Tuesday and started tearing it down to see what we have to work with.

 

Sam is a certified crane operator.

 

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With the engine on a stand - time to smile.

 

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Block looked okay.  Some evidence of a small headgasket leak.

 

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Head is a tasty version of the A87

 

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#3 carterb

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Posted 24 November 2017 - 07:05 PM

NSFW Alert...  Grannies rear end:

 

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And some JDM L18 carbs to feed the engine:

 

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#4 bananahamuck

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Posted 25 November 2017 - 10:15 AM

 Are you sure they will let you run those SUs ?? If it was me i would at the least call and have a word with them before you go to any trouble. 

My guess would be the tech guy at the track wont care if they are stock or not,, that acronym that track rules go by,  don't like multiple carb setups at all,,,  usually..

 

And if it was me i would sneak a long tail 4speed in there for strength, . 

 

 

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So somehow while i was driving back from Eaglerock swap meet i somehow caused YOU to post this,,,, do really think members on this site are that stupid to believe i caused it??

http://community.rat...un-for-a-while/

Yeah i guess you do,,

 

BTW ,,,, the first person to call you a pussy,,,, ya might wanna check out his ethnicity ,, cuz i don't think it's what you think it is there snowflakeboy

 


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Posted 25 November 2017 - 10:56 AM

Since dual SU's were on the SSS cars in Japan we should be okay.  Same reason we can use the L18.



#6 Icehouse

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Posted 25 November 2017 - 11:19 PM

Since dual SU's were on the SSS cars in Japan we should be okay.  Same reason we can use the L18.

 

The SU's came on the SSS 510's here too I thought? 


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Posted 28 November 2017 - 11:58 AM

Since dual SU's were on the SSS cars in Japan we should be okay.  Same reason we can use the L18.

 

I understand why you think you can use them ,,

 

BUT 

In the link posted above 

 

Use your home track’s stock entry-level 4 cylinder rules with the exceptions listed the rules linked below
All Door Bar & Caged Hornets welcome.
Enduro Rules and Enduro addendum available here:

 

 

 

NASCAR Rules 

 

Hornet rules 

4. No cars with rotary engine, turbocharger, all-wheel drive, 4-wheel steering, supercharger or other factory

performance enhancements are allowed.
5. Cars that don't meet the above criteria that have been allowed to run at Evergreen Speedway in the 2015 race
season will be grandfathered in. Possibly with penalties NO NEW BUILDS.

 

 

My first post was a rhetorical question to be honest ,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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So somehow while i was driving back from Eaglerock swap meet i somehow caused YOU to post this,,,, do really think members on this site are that stupid to believe i caused it??

http://community.rat...un-for-a-while/

Yeah i guess you do,,

 

BTW ,,,, the first person to call you a pussy,,,, ya might wanna check out his ethnicity ,, cuz i don't think it's what you think it is there snowflakeboy

 


..........................I shall call it, narclops.

 

 

 


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Posted 28 November 2017 - 12:03 PM

the tech guys go by THEIR rules.  And having raced circle track from age about age 15 till i had kids at 29 ,, i can assure you sneaking dual carbs by them by citing some obscure ,, to them,,  model sounds like a recipe for in the pits carb change before race.

 

  The tech guys go by THEIR rules. and they can be rather prickly about it if they want cuz it's THEIR track

 

 

Just get a big port L20b manifold and 32/36 or 38/38 and call it good

 

 

 

 

Whoops that was supposed to be edited into last post ,,  :blush:  :blush:


So somehow while i was driving back from Eaglerock swap meet i somehow caused YOU to post this,,,, do really think members on this site are that stupid to believe i caused it??

http://community.rat...un-for-a-while/

Yeah i guess you do,,

 

BTW ,,,, the first person to call you a pussy,,,, ya might wanna check out his ethnicity ,, cuz i don't think it's what you think it is there snowflakeboy

 


..........................I shall call it, narclops.

 

 

 


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Posted 28 November 2017 - 05:01 PM

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Posted 28 November 2017 - 11:48 PM

If you bring this it should help. This brochure says Hitachi not SUs, and L16. Couldn't find anything similar for the SSS1800, but I'm pretty sure there was a factory option SSS 1800.

 

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The blocked list is getting bigger-but you were the first.

 

 

 

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 12:35 AM

Only JDM Coupes were available with an 1.8L. Those were offered with smaller twin Hitachi side-draft carburetors though and weren't available for the US market. 

 

I think there's confusion because the BRE cars were allowed to us L18s in the TransAm series. 


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The blocked list is getting bigger-but you were the first.

 

 

 

http://the510realm.c...php?f=3&t=15379

 

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 08:20 AM

Jeff is our rules guy.  He's been talking with the organizer this whole time so we don't start down a road that leads to a dead-end.  We'll have him ask again.

 

For what it's worth, the bluebird sedan was available as an 1800SSS also, not just the coupe.

 

It doesn't really matter if we can't use them.  We will be slower than most of our rivals regardless.

 

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 11:09 AM

The SU's came on the SSS 510's here too I thought?

The SU's came on the SSS 510's here too I thought?


In Aus the 1600, 180B and 200B SSS models (510, 610, 710) all came with twin SU carburettors FWIW.

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 11:37 AM

This is very cool, you guys have a closer group then here. I admire that



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Posted 29 November 2017 - 08:21 PM

Surprised to hear you say that.  So many of your projects look like a group effort.

We're having fun...

 

Yesterday was another Turbo Tuesday.  We started by getting the car into the garage to see what we have to work with.

 

Engine goes here:

 

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Driver goes here:  (Check out the awesome collapsible steering wheel adapter)

 

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Some of the past owners?  Gary, Tom, Shelle (sp?), NiKKi.  Not sure about Tom.  He has an * next to his name.  

 

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Oh, and who can forget Amie?

 

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 08:25 PM

We finished stripping the head and then I lapped the valves while Sam and Jeff started stripping the car.

 

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Stop it I mean it!  Anybody want a peanut?

 

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This was really fun and I'm very excited to build this back up.  I took the block and head home to give to our friend Paul who has an industrial parts washer to clean them up before the rebuild.

 

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 08:27 PM

This thing had the most bazzar front suspension.  Each corner was completely different:

  The front right had multiple springs and strange spacers. 

  The left rear spring was about half the height of the right rear spring.

  The right rear shock was adjustable, and the rod cover was removed.

  One of the front struts had the top hat modified for camber and/or caster.

Makes me wonder if it was set up like that over many races or if *TOM just said "Now see here boys...  This is what we gotta do..."

 

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 08:31 PM

Sam and Jeff stripping the car.  We almost had it down to the shell by the end of the night.

 

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 08:33 PM

Hollowed ground!

 

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To Do and Parts Needed list.  Hopefully we will start crossing things off next week.

 

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 09:12 PM

All new hydraulics in the mail...

 

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