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#41 Aaron Datsun

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Posted 27 February 2018 - 06:00 PM

Project Log (13 Jan 18):

Start Time: 1700

End Time: 2200

Decided to weld in my first patch panel. I want to relocate the battery to the trunk. The spot I want to put it looks like swiss cheese

To Do (Daily):

  1. Cut out old pieces
  2. Make template
  3. Cut New Metal
  4. Shape
  5. Weld in place (Still need to go back and finish)

1. I thought I had already purchased cut off wheels for my new angle grider, I had not so the first thing I had to do is run to Harbor Freight to get more cut off wheels. I did use my dremel for the first portion, but it just ate the cut off discs too fast, and I ain’t made of money.

  • The cut off discs for the larger grinder aren’t as nice as the dremel, but they also aren’t nearly as expensive
  • I could use a better work table, but I already have the kids go-kart on it
  • A combination of the 4.5” grinder and dremel was how I removed all the metal
  • I decided to leave the raised area which made it way more difficult to create the patch panel (hindsight says level it)
  • Used sanding wheel to clean up the areas it worked really well cutting through the old tar type stuff a previous owner sprayed in there

2. I used construction paper and crayons to make the templates. The Cut out looked like the first image in the images section (where the dotted line is a curve up to meet the raised section).

3. A friend of mine (Thank you Darrel) game me some metal so I traced the replacement piece onto it

  • Learning Point: You need to be very precise with tracing and creation of templates (I more ballparked it and it added a TON of time)
  • I cut the piece too big, and I didn’t cut everything in straight lines which requires more precisions
  • I used the 4.5” Cut off wheel to cut out the entire pice

4. I did not do a great job of bending the piece into place. I did use a vice and a piece of wood to shape it, which did give me a good surface to shape against (Another reason to cut out a larger piece to help with this

5. Tac’d in the panel after making several more cuts and shaping changes on it

  • I had quite a bit of burn through (I was using .035 flux core, will be switching to .030 flux core next time)
  • I tac’d then moved around
  • I did a ton of adjustments on the machine (probably didn’t help that much),  I watch a few videos after on YouTube, I think I have some ideas to do better next time
  • When I finished there were still quite a few holes in the welds, and the excess needs to be ground down

Notes:

  • Need thinner wire
  • I did not take out fuel tank, the though process was that a closed system nearby was better than an open system
  • Had to weld in a washer to get a good ground contact, also after watching some videos I think I can get an even better ground next time which could help as well.
  • I am not currently happy with the results
  • I painted the areas with some paint to prevent rusting
  • Sanding flap discs are amazing

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Links to Timelapse: No, I didn’t take video after the first couple hours as I was unhappy with my results and didn’t want any evidence of that.


1975 280z Turbo with MS1 MSNSe (Garage Queen)
1993.5 Infiniti G20 (The beater) SOLD
1979 Datsun 210 (The basket case) SOLD
2003 VW Passat Wagon SOLD
1996 Buick Roadmaster Wagon SOLD

1972 Datsun 510: 4 Door Glory


#42 Aaron Datsun

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Posted 27 February 2018 - 06:08 PM

  Project Log (19 Jan 18): Day 1

Start Time: 0930 End Time:1200

Start Time:1630 End Time:1700

Project Log (20 Jan 18): Day 2

Start Time:1130 End Time:1330

The first real upgrade on Benjamin Frank510. Changing out the rear suspension with some TechnoToy Tuning adjustable coilovers.

To Do (Daily):

  1. Remove Wheels
  2. Removed Shocks
  3. Remove Axles
  4. Remove Springs
  5. Install new shocks and springs
  6. Install Axles
  7. Install Wheels

1.  Nothing significant to report, they came right off

2. The shocks were actually taken off after the axles. They came off very easily. The jam nuts up top and the single bolt on the bottom were relatively easy to remove. I made sure to soak anything that was on the outside of the car in WD-40 to help me bust it loose.

3. These axles did not remove easily. The 14mm bolts and nuts were rusted tight and looked like the had been rounded off in the past (at least a couple of them). I was able to break most of them loose with my superior strength, WD-40, and heat. Not all of them came off and a couple had to be cut off with the dremel and the patience. I replaced the bolts/nuts with some bolts from Ace hardware. Each bolt/Nut combo was a bit over $1, but they are at least new and shiny.

  • Heat helps
  • There is definitely some spots in the rotation where it is easier to get a wrench on
  • You should pre-soak all those nuts in WD-40 or some other penetrating oil
  • Just buy all new bolts (think about using anti-seize)

4. Holy Cow! These were a pain in the behind to get off. I finally had to get my spring compressors back from a buddy who borrowed them many moons ago. It seemed that the rear control arm was bound on something and not allowing it to go all the way down. The driver’s side finally slipped off the jack with a thunderous crash into the ground (I still have all my fingers and toes), which unbound the control arm and allowed me to easily remove the spring. The passenger’s side I used a spring compressor and it came off a bit easier.

  • You have to remove the bumpstop bolts as well as they bind up the bottom of the spring if they stay bolted. The passenger’s side broke when I attempted to loosen it
  • The manual says to remove the parking brake cable. I didn’t with no ill effect, it never even appeared to “tighten” there was always slack
  • A spring compressor can help, but should not be required to remove the spring

5. These went right in. I tried to keep the ride height up a bit more than “MOAR LOWER!” I set the struts on “1” for softest setting because I want it to be a comfortable daily

  • The kit didn’t come with a metal washer to use against the body at the top of the strut tower so I added the one from the old strut (don’t throw out washers/spacers)
    • This required me tightening the strut placing the jack underneath the strut ensuring it was secure, removing the upper nuts, removing the rubber and installing the metal washer (it was a two step process)
  • Before you install make a conscious choice where you want the adjustment knob and set screw for adjusting ride height so you don’t have to remove parts later

6/7. These went right back on no issues, just make sure to really tighten those bolts

Notes:

  • After driving the car it seems like it will be nice, but the springs are a little close so there will likely be some rubbing
  • It has been snowing so much that I have not driven the car much lately
  • The specifications for the kit are 200LB springs front and back
  • This project took way longer than I budgeted in time
  • Weight Savings (Sorry I measured with grams, before realizing I could switch to lb’s and oz) I converted at the end
    • New Part: 3459 grams
    • Old Spring/Bumpstop: 3967 grams
    • Old Strut: 1466 grams
    • Difference = -1954 grams or 4.308Lbs per side

Images: Yes (will have to get later)

Links to Timelapse


1975 280z Turbo with MS1 MSNSe (Garage Queen)
1993.5 Infiniti G20 (The beater) SOLD
1979 Datsun 210 (The basket case) SOLD
2003 VW Passat Wagon SOLD
1996 Buick Roadmaster Wagon SOLD

1972 Datsun 510: 4 Door Glory


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Posted 06 March 2018 - 10:53 PM

I have been keeping my log (though not as verbose) I have been doing tons of work. In the past week:

- Engine and Transmission taken out (lost a weber main jet I dropped it and I CANNOT find it)

- Cut out several rust spots in the engine bay (Not done there)

- Currently getting drive shaft shortened

- Cleaning and swapping things to the L20B and the 280ZX transmission

- Cut out the battery tray (will locate to the trunk)

- Removed front brake lines

 

End Goal: Rust holes fixed in the engine bay, L20B and 5 Speed swapped drive the car!


1975 280z Turbo with MS1 MSNSe (Garage Queen)
1993.5 Infiniti G20 (The beater) SOLD
1979 Datsun 210 (The basket case) SOLD
2003 VW Passat Wagon SOLD
1996 Buick Roadmaster Wagon SOLD

1972 Datsun 510: 4 Door Glory


#44 Aaron Datsun

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 07:26 PM

Still working, but figured I would show off where I am currently. I have all the timelapses, but just haven't had time to edit the videos, been working on the car too much. I wanted to give an update though. There were HUGE rust holes in the engine bay so I did my first real rust repair under the hood and did a bit of painting I need to get the car running under its own power very soon so I am having to put in quite  a few hours.

 

From when I pulled the engine to all the work that got me to tonight!

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1975 280z Turbo with MS1 MSNSe (Garage Queen)
1993.5 Infiniti G20 (The beater) SOLD
1979 Datsun 210 (The basket case) SOLD
2003 VW Passat Wagon SOLD
1996 Buick Roadmaster Wagon SOLD

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 10:20 PM

Is this car 817 tan?
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Posted 13 March 2018 - 04:27 AM

I have zero idea. I took the battery tray into a company called finishmasters and they color matched the paint. They did a fantastic job.

1975 280z Turbo with MS1 MSNSe (Garage Queen)
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Posted 13 March 2018 - 08:11 AM

If you look on the bottom side of the upper core support, it *might* be stamped into the metal. Also it's printed on the middle(?) sticker on the core support, but like many, they have been wiped away over time.

 

This looks like my car, which is 817.

 

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 09:02 PM

My sticker is completely un-readable, but yeah I would say that is the same color. Work was somewhat slow tonight I was cleaning the last of the brake lines so I can re-install and do other stuff like that tomorrow evening hopefully. I have a few days off coming up, I am hoping to get this thing buttoned up sooner rather than later.

 

 

If you look on the bottom side of the upper core support, it *might* be stamped into the metal. Also it's printed on the middle(?) sticker on the core support, but like many, they have been wiped away over time.

 

This looks like my car, which is 817.

 

 

 


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1993.5 Infiniti G20 (The beater) SOLD
1979 Datsun 210 (The basket case) SOLD
2003 VW Passat Wagon SOLD
1996 Buick Roadmaster Wagon SOLD

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Posted 17 March 2018 - 12:41 AM

First video is up. No work on the car for the next week :(

 


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1993.5 Infiniti G20 (The beater) SOLD
1979 Datsun 210 (The basket case) SOLD
2003 VW Passat Wagon SOLD
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 08:22 AM

My sticker is completely un-readable, but yeah I would say that is the same color. Work was somewhat slow tonight I was cleaning the last of the brake lines so I can re-install and do other stuff like that tomorrow evening hopefully. I have a few days off coming up, I am hoping to get this thing buttoned up sooner rather than later.

It should be stamped into the metal itself. Underneath the emissions sticker (if you still have that),just to the right of the hood latch on the core support. If you have the sticker but don't want to remove it you can feel the underside to see if you can make out what the code is.

Hard to see in my photo, but it's there. "831". I'm only able to make out the 3 and the 1 from the bottom side of mine. RzLPd5n.jpg

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Posted 27 March 2018 - 08:21 PM

I can see there is something stamped there, but no idea what it is. Also the engine is back together, but my battery is dead :(


1975 280z Turbo with MS1 MSNSe (Garage Queen)
1993.5 Infiniti G20 (The beater) SOLD
1979 Datsun 210 (The basket case) SOLD
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Posted 29 March 2018 - 07:09 PM

I am way behind on posting things, but that is because I have been working on the car itself. The L20B is now in it, and I fired it up tonight! I will finish buttoning up the car this weekend! I have been keeping notes, but not as religiously as I have been working for ~ 4 hours a day on the car for the past several weeks. I am so pumped! Just wanted to share


1975 280z Turbo with MS1 MSNSe (Garage Queen)
1993.5 Infiniti G20 (The beater) SOLD
1979 Datsun 210 (The basket case) SOLD
2003 VW Passat Wagon SOLD
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Posted 31 March 2018 - 09:23 AM

Timing is set! I should hopefully be producing the next couple videos over the next week. I only have to close up the trans tunnel (new metal) and wire in relays to control the electric fans!

Teaser shot. I have most of my logs written in the garage journal. Need to type up still (actually keeping detailed records is very time consuming)

 

 

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1975 280z Turbo with MS1 MSNSe (Garage Queen)
1993.5 Infiniti G20 (The beater) SOLD
1979 Datsun 210 (The basket case) SOLD
2003 VW Passat Wagon SOLD
1996 Buick Roadmaster Wagon SOLD

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 10:10 PM

Life has been crazy. I did quite a bit of work. In this video I:

- Cut out 5 rust spots in the engine bay

- welded in the new pieces

 


1975 280z Turbo with MS1 MSNSe (Garage Queen)
1993.5 Infiniti G20 (The beater) SOLD
1979 Datsun 210 (The basket case) SOLD
2003 VW Passat Wagon SOLD
1996 Buick Roadmaster Wagon SOLD

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 02:07 AM

I like stopping in here but I gotta admit I'm a couple videos behind.  Do you have a time frame in which you hope to have it completed?

 

You may have put that in an earlier post but If so, I have since forgotten.


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:36 AM

What is finished? That is a somewhat nebulous question with a Datsun :). I have already completed the engine swap, just behind on videos. The next is the floor rust, and front suspension. I am moving next month, so I am mainly just driving it daily right now. Once I get settled in the new house I will start work again. I expect the work on this car to go a year from now at least, just being realistic

1975 280z Turbo with MS1 MSNSe (Garage Queen)
1993.5 Infiniti G20 (The beater) SOLD
1979 Datsun 210 (The basket case) SOLD
2003 VW Passat Wagon SOLD
1996 Buick Roadmaster Wagon SOLD

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 09:04 AM

Finished.....I forgot where I was. :thumbup:


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 09:21 AM

Kelmo, I know my videos are not the most exciting car videos out there, hence the sub-100 views, I hope you enjoy them.

1975 280z Turbo with MS1 MSNSe (Garage Queen)
1993.5 Infiniti G20 (The beater) SOLD
1979 Datsun 210 (The basket case) SOLD
2003 VW Passat Wagon SOLD
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Posted 01 June 2018 - 06:36 AM

Well the car is idling again now, running great, and the electric fans are hooked up. Some big life stuff happening soon. Will post after the fact. Got the Z out recently.

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1975 280z Turbo with MS1 MSNSe (Garage Queen)
1993.5 Infiniti G20 (The beater) SOLD
1979 Datsun 210 (The basket case) SOLD
2003 VW Passat Wagon SOLD
1996 Buick Roadmaster Wagon SOLD

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Posted 01 June 2018 - 08:00 AM

Kelmo, I know my videos are not the most exciting car videos out there, hence the sub-100 views, I hope you enjoy them.

 

I enjoy watching them. Keep em coming!


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