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#41 racerx

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 10:17 PM

65 fastback. Sorry no pics. Have not learned how to. Do adjust your valves first, warm up really good, you or someone can step on gas or pull on gas linkage. Importantly, better to use screw in type of compression checker than plug in, more accurate. Good luck.

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 07:01 AM

So, today I submitted my DMV application to transfer a lovely set of Blue/Yellow California plates to my truck...can't WAIT to see them on my 521 (aka Turk 521). I picked up my side mirror from the glass shop after having replacement mirror glass cut & installed. Looks great! I then replaced the nasty spark plugs & wires & borrowed a compression test kit from the local auto parts store & did my 1st ever compression test on a car. My #'s came up 90, 100, 100, 95. Not sure what that means yet but if anybody would like to give an opinion...feel free. Valve adjustment is next. Damn, this is FUN

 

Like someone else said they are within spec of each other but they do seem low.   

 

This is how I do it..

 

1. Warm engine up to operating temp 

2. Pull ignition wire from dizzy (middle going to coil)

3. Pull plugs

4. Insert compression gauge into #1

5. Hold down gas pedal and turn over 5 times - record reading

6. Repeat steps 4 & 5 for the other 3 cylinders



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Posted 09 September 2017 - 07:06 AM

Just go to 4 LAPS and borrow 4 compression gauges  :rofl:


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#44 Charlie69

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 07:17 AM

Angela everyone is fixated on compression, I say do not concern yourself with compression at this time.  Enjoy the truck drive the truck and work out the little bugs and let your bank account recover from the initial purchase.  These Datsuns will run for years with low compression as long as you keep good oil in it and change the filter and oil on a regular basis.


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#45 Angela

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 07:42 AM

Angela everyone is fixated on compression, I say do not concern yourself with compression at this time.  Enjoy the truck drive the truck and work out the little bugs and let your bank account recover from the initial purchase.  These Datsuns will run for years with low compression as long as you keep good oil in it and change the filter and oil on a regular basis.

 

Thanks Charlie,

 

That's encouraging to hear. I hope to take good care of this truck & make sure it's still around for years to come. Yes, my wallet does need to recover after this purchase but in this particular case it's not so much of a "concern", it's that I want to get to know my Datsun...get a baseline of information. I'm keeping a log of all that I do to it to keep track of oil changes, parts, maintenance, etc. I'm getting old & my memory is not so good so, it helps me stay on top of things.

 

After the valve adjustment, getting a muffler/exhaust installed (it has none), & checking brakes all around...I'll be more confident in driving it around. The seat situation makes it difficult though. I'm only 5ft so the seat has to be up fairly close for me to reach the pedals. However, with the steering column (seemingly) being longer than my wagon, that almost puts me up against the steering wheel with no ability to recline just a bit...feels awkward. I'll have to figure that out, too.

 

Anyone know of mods done to shorten the steering column a wee bit? a 60/40 bench seat with ability to recline? Bucket seats? I really like having a bench seat but I have to adapt this thing to make it easier to drive for a little short shit like myself.

 

Ideas welcome...as always   :hmm: 


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Posted 09 September 2017 - 09:10 AM

Try a different/smaller steering wheel first.

It's not that often I hear anyone having the seat in a 521 adjusted forward, it's a new set of problems that over 99 percent on here do not have, most need the seat farther back like me which is why I made 2 of my drivers kingcabs.

I do know that Mike shortened the steering column in the NL320 but he also installed a smaller steering wheel.


 

 


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Posted 09 September 2017 - 11:16 AM

So I warned you about this when you bought it. Just re do the seat and move forward to reac and do what Wayne said and smaller wheel if that important. Changing to a bucket can help also and you can set mounts to meet your needs.

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 11:50 AM

I honestly forget how the bench bolts in but is it possible to shim the front two bolts that hold the bench in?
Use a small spacer and some longer bolts?
Not sure how much of a recline
You want, or even if what I said is possible with the stock bench.. just an idea...

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 12:41 PM

I shortened the column in my 70 521 and my current 66 520 and the problem you run into with shortening the column is the steering wheel is lower to the floor, seat, your legs, and in my case my stomach!

 

You would have to mod the steering box for a rag joint but then you could run a 720 tilt column that would tilt the steering wheel up.  I put a 720 tilt column in my 520 but I did not like it. 


Here is my build link:
http://community.rat...s-66-520-build/

 

Here is my 86 720 2WD King Cab Thread

http://community.rat...20-king-cab-dd/

 

Here is my 85 720 2WD King Cab ST Build Thread

http://community.rat...20-king-cab-st/

 

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 03:00 PM

Wow Charlie, you don't like your tilt column?

I have a 720 tilt column in every 520/521 I own, even my work truck that has the 521 frame, but it is a power steering truck that has the 720 steering gear mounted as far forward on the 521 frame as I could get it, it's set up like a 4X4 straight axle truck that is real high with the steering arm going all the way across to the passenger side where it connects.

The 520 was a non-tilt at first but I didn't like it, so I changed it over to tilt.

I don't know for sure, but I believe that only 720 power steering trucks have tilt columns, if it doesn't have power steering it don't have a tilt column either.


 

 


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Posted 09 September 2017 - 05:05 PM

The problem I have with the 720 tilt column is it only tilts dow and then returns up to the position of a standard column.  I have thick thighs and a large belly so the down tilt just put it closer to my legs and belly.


Here is my build link:
http://community.rat...s-66-520-build/

 

Here is my 86 720 2WD King Cab Thread

http://community.rat...20-king-cab-dd/

 

Here is my 85 720 2WD King Cab ST Build Thread

http://community.rat...20-king-cab-st/

 

Here is my Photo Bucket Album Link:
http://http://s477.p...arlie69_Datsun/


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Posted 09 September 2017 - 05:48 PM

Angela think about your 521 in this light, The next time you drive to the Hamptons (MA) are you going to drive your 521?  LOL  I bet you never drive to the Hamptons in anything as it is too far and I do not know what I would do in the Hamptons any way!!!  LOL


Here is my build link:
http://community.rat...s-66-520-build/

 

Here is my 86 720 2WD King Cab Thread

http://community.rat...20-king-cab-dd/

 

Here is my 85 720 2WD King Cab ST Build Thread

http://community.rat...20-king-cab-st/

 

Here is my Photo Bucket Album Link:
http://http://s477.p...arlie69_Datsun/


#53 Angela

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 07:24 PM

Gonna try to respond to everyone who chimed in...many thanks for taking the time  :thumbup:

 

Try a different/smaller steering wheel first.

It's not that often I hear anyone having the seat in a 521 adjusted forward, it's a new set of problems that over 99 percent on here do not have, most need the seat farther back like me which is why I made 2 of my drivers kingcabs.

I do know that Mike shortened the steering column in the NL320 but he also installed a smaller steering wheel.

 Figures...I'm the 1% (haha). I have thought about a smaller steering wheel...that'll definitely help. I also had to be brutally honest & consider the fact I need to get back to my gym routine. My concern with a smaller steering wheel is that it will require that much more muscle to turn, etc but can't solve everything. That may just be the trick to give my chesticles more breathing room  :rofl: 

 

So I warned you about this when you bought it. Just re do the seat and move forward to reac and do what Wayne said and smaller wheel if that important. Changing to a bucket can help also and you can set mounts to meet your needs.

 

Yes, Ray...I know, you did warn me. I'm not complaining about the upright position per se. I just didn't realize the steering column orientation & how far I'd have to move the seat up to accommodate for my being vertically challenged (among other things  :rofl: )

 

I most definitely am going to have the seat redone cos I believe that, that...along with smaller steering wheel, & losing a few lbs will all add up to making a reasonable difference without breaking the bank or doing crazy mods.

 

I honestly forget how the bench bolts in but is it possible to shim the front two bolts that hold the bench in?
Use a small spacer and some longer bolts?
Not sure how much of a recline
You want, or even if what I said is possible with the stock bench.. just an idea...

 

Ya, the stock bench doesn't recline at all. I remember my Dad's old toyota truck had a similar set up but it had a metal paddle type lever on the side that let you tilt just a bit. I was thinking of looking for something like that to reupholster & make fit in my truck in favor of the stock bench seat. That thing is SO far gone & springs are busted down...it's almost not worth rebuilding.

 

I shortened the column in my 70 521 and my current 66 520 and the problem you run into with shortening the column is the steering wheel is lower to the floor, seat, your legs, and in my case my stomach!

 

You would have to mod the steering box for a rag joint but then you could run a 720 tilt column that would tilt the steering wheel up.  I put a 720 tilt column in my 520 but I did not like it. 

 

That is likely too much modding for me. Realistically, I will never get around to that kind of project. Sounds kinda cool though. Being short, I'm used to being "low to the floor" anyway so wouldn't bother me!

 

Angela think about your 521 in this light, The next time you drive to the Hamptons (MA) are you going to drive your 521?  LOL  I bet you never drive to the Hamptons in anything as it is too far and I do not know what I would do in the Hamptons any way!!!  LOL

 

Will never get to the Hamptons in this...that's for sure but I want to drive it to shows & meets a within a few hundred miles of me so I need it to be a bit more comfortable. I don't mean that in a snobby way...I drive old cars cos I like to feel the road...among all the other cool things that go along with driving old Datsuns. I mean just to improve upon it a bit so the love affair can continue  :thumbup:


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Posted 09 September 2017 - 09:39 PM

The easies option is to put blocks on your pedals.

 

http://www.pedalextenders.com/


Here is my build link:
http://community.rat...s-66-520-build/

 

Here is my 86 720 2WD King Cab Thread

http://community.rat...20-king-cab-dd/

 

Here is my 85 720 2WD King Cab ST Build Thread

http://community.rat...20-king-cab-st/

 

Here is my Photo Bucket Album Link:
http://http://s477.p...arlie69_Datsun/


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Posted 09 September 2017 - 11:18 PM

Putting a seat in that has you sitting lower will also help, the lower you are the shorter your legs need to be, bucket seats might work for you as long as they have you sitting lower than you are in the bench seat, sitting lower is what you need to try for, then the steering wheel might not need to be shortened or changed out for a smaller one.

You also might be able to tilt the seat back like you mentioned in a previous post.

Keep in mind that if you get really low you might have trouble seeing over the dash, people will only be able to see your head when you fly by them. :lol:


 

 


#56 Angela

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 08:05 AM

The easies option is to put blocks on your pedals.

 

http://www.pedalextenders.com/

 

 

UH....WHERE'S THE "UNLIKE" BUTTON?

 

Goin' too far there Charlie...Toooo Faaaaar....

 

(But afterall, I did ask & did invite opinions & this IS ratsun so... :poke: )


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Posted 10 September 2017 - 08:15 AM

Putting a seat in that has you sitting lower will also help, the lower you are the shorter your legs need to be, bucket seats might work for you as long as they have you sitting lower than you are in the bench seat, sitting lower is what you need to try for, then the steering wheel might not need to be shortened or changed out for a smaller one.

You also might be able to tilt the seat back like you mentioned in a previous post.

Keep in mind that if you get really low you might have trouble seeing over the dash, people will only be able to see your head when you fly by them. :lol:

 

Thanks Wayno,

 

I think I already have a VERY low seat cos like I said, the seat has been broken down & needs serious repair. I'm gonna get this figured out one way or another cos I freaking love this truck & am one determined lady. I'll make sure that when I do get the seats redone...they don't overstuff it so I can still sit low enough, yet high enough to see over the wheel  B) . Smaller wheel will help there, too. I do have a set of 510 buckets from a wagon I could consider but that's a last resort I think. I hope to keep the bench seat...or maybe find an old 60/40 split bench that'll work. Not like I'll be having passengers too often & have to worry about their legroom anyway...my whole family is short  :thumbup: 


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Posted 10 September 2017 - 08:39 AM

The higher you sit the more legroom there is, also tilting the seat back/front of the seat you sit on higher than the back also creates more legroom, if you get the seat even 3 inches lower the difference would be dramatic, very tall guys like Jrock do stuff like this, but it puts their knees up near their chest, but their head fits in the cab without having to slouch.

A few guys on here went as far as to have a cushion on the floor with a pad on the back wall of the cab, someone else used a forklift seat(not adjustable), both these were for very tall guys(6'6" plus) trying to fit in a 521 cab.

With buckets you can adjust yours the way you want and the passenger can adjust theirs the way they want, Datsun Roadster buckets might work for you, Honda Del Sol seats might be another option, both these type have the part where you actually sit sunken, they kinda hold you in there like a racing seat, but both these might put you too low, there are a lot of cars in the wrecking yards with nice bucket seats that will do exactly what you need, you just have to find them.


 

 


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Posted 10 September 2017 - 11:01 PM

So, I took a few pics of the seat in my truck today & got an idea that might be a simple fix...possibly in addition to a smaller steering wheel but maybe even without. I hope what I'm about to suggest might make sense...

 

If I move the seat forward to where I can comfortably reach the pedals, there will be room behind the seat to tilt it back a little. I was thinking if I trimmed a little off the frame of the seat itself. (maybe at an angle) the frame would "stop" in a position further back. Or...cut/relocate/weld the little "stop" tab a couple inches higher up. Does that make sense? Any suggestions?

 

Thanks guys (my apologies for the large pic but I still don't know how to adjust it on imgur yet)

 

 

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 11:14 PM

Don't they make seat cushions that are wedge shaped(thicker at the bottom. thinner on the top) that would do the same thing?