610StaWag Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 I am in the final stages of restoring our 1973 610 Station wagon. Is there anyone anywhere that has a Datsun 610 station wagon (preferably a 1973)? I cannot find anyone. I am beginning to think I have the last 610 station wagon. The service manual I have is actually for an Australian (610) 180B. My North American Datsun is different. We bought the Datsun in 1980. There were a few parts that are missing when we bought the car. I am trying to figure the rear seat belt configuration. I have two belt retractor units (each with dual mounting holes, but the body has four separate large single bolt holes. There are two short straps with buckles and these have single holes. I need to someone with a 610 station wagon who can send me photos of their Datsun 610 station wagon. My insurance company (I cannot change) wants me to pass a special inspection (because of the age of the car) before they will insure the Datsun, and California will not let me renew the registration until I can provide proof of current insurance. Is there anyone anywhere that has a Datsun 610 station wagon? Quote Link to comment
Dattokai Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 SoCal, Upland specifically. Modesto White 610 wagon in Modesto. Bay Area Quote Link to comment
angliagt Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 I always thought that the early 610's were really nice,clean looking cars. Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 They're are others.. smaller crowd though. Quote Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Can't wait to start building mine :frantics: Quote Link to comment
505plus5 Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Anyone know the differences between the wagon versions/models? Were there 510s, 610s, 710s & 810s all in existence, at the same time? Just a thought. Quote Link to comment
q-tip Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 I had a 73, it's in California now, bustanut got it back on the road. Quote Link to comment
610StaWag Posted August 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Thanks for reading my post, but random photos of Datsuns (some very old photos), are not what I need. I need to make contact with someone that owns a stock early 1973 Datsun 610 station wagon. I have tried for years to make contact with someone that owns a 100% stock (not modified) 1973 Datsun 610 station wagon. I can only assume that either there are currently none around or that I am the only 1973 Datsun 610 station wagon owner using the Ratsun site. I have tried Datsun clubs around the world and have been unable to find another 1973 Datsun 610 station wagon owner restoring their Datsun to original condition. My Datsun is a 1973 (made 11/72) Datsun 610 North American model. Quote Link to comment
505plus5 Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Well... you can verify that, perhaps. Try CarDomain.com and tell us what you find out! :) Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 I think you are going to have to provide pictures of what you have. I have a rendering of the station wagon seat belts but it's hard to follow your description of them. I have two belt retractor units (each with dual mounting holes, but the body has four separate large single bolt holes. There are two short straps with buckles and these have single holes. A picture would sure help. Quote Link to comment
505plus5 Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 And, also lets be 100% certain that the last digit of the year is 3 not 8. I know of a vehicle, a Sunny that's a '78 but a total '73 body, altogether. I think that 1200 is a '73, not '78. Do you have paperwork, a title or something, confirming that year, '73? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 Anyone know the differences between the wagon versions/models? Were there 510s, 610s, 710s & 810s all in existence, at the same time? Just a thought. The 510 ended in '73 and the 610 took over right away with an L18 engine changing to an L20B for 74 through '76 The 710 began in '74 with an L18 changing to an L20B in '75 through '77 The 810 began Aug '76 (a '77 model year) through '80 becoming the Maxima in '81. 2 Quote Link to comment
610StaWag Posted August 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 Thanks again for reading the posts. I would like to get in touch with other (early) North American market 1973 Datsun 610 station wagon owners. The rear seatbelts are just one item I am dealing with. I would like to contact people that have an early stock 1973 Datsun 610 station wagon because there are a multitude of small items I have questions about. I have not been able to find a Datsun 610 club; it would be helpful if anyone could give me leads so eventually a 610 sub-group could be formed. I have learned several work-arounds for unavailable parts that I could share. There is a seatbelt place that can sell me any type of belt and fittings I want. . I would like to find out what is authentic/original. I don’t think that it would be helpful for me to post photos of what I have. Thanks Quote Link to comment
bananahamuck Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 Why would you think just because someone lowered the shit outta their wagoon or added wide wheels or even coil overs,, their 610 wagon would be soooo much different than yours inside?? This site already has a 610 section ,, maybe try going down the list of owners in there and personal ,message them.. I aint saying any of them will answer you but,,,, meh. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 So you're looking for seatbelts? Or how to mount them properly? If you have them, there are only so many combinations to try Seems to me just try them till you get something that works. I have two belt retractor units (each with dual mounting holes, but the body has four separate large single bolt holes. There are two short straps with buckles and these have single holes. Maybe the belts you have are not 610 belts. 1 Quote Link to comment
505plus5 Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 The 510 ended in '73 and the 610 took over right away with an L18 engine changing to an L20B for 74 through '76 The 710 began in '74 with an L18 changing to an L20B in '75 through '77 The 810 began Aug '76 (a '77 model year) through '80 becoming the Maxima in '81. So, Mike... the all stock 1979 "510" (A10) wagon I just bought about a month and a half ago isn't a 510 but an 810? Both front fenders have "Datsun 510" plaque/badges on them but it does come with a really nice L20B in it. Vin starts with WHLA10... but I know it's not (W)PL510... Thanks. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 The car you describe is the A10, WHLA10. It may have started production in July '78 (start of the '79 model year) at least, through '81? To differentiate it from an PL510 always call it an HL510. Anyone who knows their Datsuns will know the difference. In the US the L20B was replaced with the new Z20S for '80 but in Canada the L20B continued for this year and changed to the Z20S for '81. In the States a round headlamp car is pre '80 and has the L20B, rectangular headlamps is the Z20S KHL510.... 2 dr hatch FHL510.... 4 dr hatch WHL510.... goon The A10 was Nissan's way of capitalizing on the past fame of the original PL510m. It was only vaguely squarish like the original, did NOT have IRS or even leaf springs but coil and link rear suspension. Personally I like the earlu 'round eye' A10 The 810 only came with an L24 six cylinder engine and will say 810 in the car number or VIN Quote Link to comment
505plus5 Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 Nicely put, DM. I too, personally like the round head lights on the A10s. Once they became squared they look off, as if something just isn't right with the style of the vehicle. So, yes, my wagon is the Las year of the, 4 and round, head lights. I still, definitely, like the PL510s, too!... just don't think I'd trade for just any PL for my wHL, though. It would have to be as close as clean to mine. Now, the smaller engine, 1 square light, early 80's A10 do have their nice appeal to them, especially with good gas mileage, too! Quote Link to comment
q-tip Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 Mine was stock, little old lady stock. Quote Link to comment
610StaWag Posted August 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 What years of Datsuns used the three part seat belt configuration (two-part lap belt with a cross chest belt)? I would like to keep the car as original as possible. Since I can buy belt fabric, I only really need to get the metal fittings. What years of Datsun belts should I be looking for? I did a Ratsun search for "610" and the box said nothing found. I did finally find the 610 710 subgroup, but virtually all the owner posts are nine years old. Seatbelt Parts by Donald Broz, on Flickr Quote Link to comment
dgi Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 I did finally find the 610 710 subgroup, but virtually all the owner posts are nine years old. Did you view this post in the 610 group. http://community.ratsun.net/topic/71929-new-addition-to-the-family-73-610-wagon/ A picture in it shows the belt piece you need hanging on both sides of the car. Unfortunately, it doesn't show the ends. But your post above shows the what appears to be the correct fittings. I believe what you need is the same three piece setup that was in my 72 PL521, 72 PL510 and I think my current 73 PL510. I believe it was also in the 71 models. I won't be back to my 73 PL510 until Monday but I will try to get you some pictures of it then. Of course, my memory may be faulty. The chest belt fastens at the top with fitting #2 a few inches behind the door post and connects using fitting #1 to the third fitting you show which is attached to the end of the belt coming from the takeup reel. That then connects to the receiver which has about 14 to 16" of belt and is bolted to the driveline tunnel with a fitting very similar to fitting #2. It was such an awkward setup that I never used the chest belt in my PL521. I hope that helps. Quote Link to comment
hang_510 Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 There is a clip above the door to strap the shoulder section to, as if someone would put it up there after each use. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 I doubt Nissan had different belts for every year. Too troublesome and expensive getting them tested, evaluated and passed. Get any year set for the wagon and put them in. 1 Quote Link to comment
datsunaholic Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 The 3-point belts are FRONT seat belts. I thought you were asking about the REAR seat belts. Those originally were simple lap belts. SO they won't have the detachable shoulder strap, since they didn't have a shoulder strap at all. Quote Link to comment
610StaWag Posted August 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 Thanks for the comments. I have been finding that my car could have uncommon features. When we bought the car used in 1980, from a Datsun dealer, the dealer said it was not like any 610 they had seen. I remember being told that it could be a Canadian car. Datsun 610 made 11/72. Says 1800 on the side not 610. VIN PL610807719. I have seen an official Datsun manual has a drawing that shows three sets of lap belts for the rear seat. My car does not have those six belt attachment points under the rear seat. The car has only four threaded attachment points. My Datsun's belts also have receiver for a chest belt just like the front belts do (please see the photos in my earlier post, #20). And, above and behind the rear seat (with proportionately the same spacing as the front), there is a threaded fitting (chest belt anchor) of the same size and threads as the one for the front chest belt.So I took that front belt and put it in back. It works perfectly clipping into the "lap" belts as a rear chest belt! Since the front is so much more important, that belt goes back to the front. I would like to get a couple of those old chest belts, but I might not be able to find them. I would prefer to not put non-Datsun belts in. As you can see in the photos, the fittings are very simple. Too bad I retired from the CNC machine shop I had worked in many years ago. When I get time I guess I will make them by hand. Thanks Too O' skool, for telling me about that clip! I wondered what that was for. Quote Link to comment
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