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#21 reza

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Posted 27 December 2016 - 08:01 PM

----------- any leads on a front bumper? I have a classifieds ad running, no hits..


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Posted 02 January 2017 - 02:28 AM

Here is a link for the 411 Factory service manual in PDF.  Free download.

 

https://www.manualsl...411-Series.html

 

Here is a colorized wiring diagram.

 

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#23 MikeRL411

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Posted 02 January 2017 - 10:53 AM

Please note!   The numbers on the headlight relay terminals on the diagram have absolutely no correlation to the physical location.  Go by the wire color codes.



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Posted 02 January 2017 - 04:56 PM

Here is the Electrical Diagram out of the factory service manual linked above.

 

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I am not sure what the numbers on the relays correspond to.  But I would listen to MikeRL411 as he is a knowledgeable person on these little cars and goons.


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Posted 02 January 2017 - 06:28 PM

In the referenced schematic, in the upper left corner is the schematic of the 410 / 411 unique headlamp relay.  My display is not of a fine enough resolution to see if the contact numbering is the "True" designation.  But, that said, as a last resort you could go to Radio Shack and buy a "flea board" and their push through contacts.  Then buty2 early, say 1968, 510 headlight relays and wire up a compatible substitute assembly.  Sure as hell beats scrapping an otherwise road worthy410 or 411 because  the headlights were screwed up! Weather proofing?  I leave that up to your imagination but lucite strips crazy glue and maybe some clear RTV come to mind.  [Don't pot the relay contacts!]

 

If there is enough interest, I have searchedthe true left to right original headlight relay contacts schematic numbers and the true relay case position tabs.  Im too late today to search for my documentation, or more realistically to write down the designations that I inscribed on my original and still in use, relay.  The relays seldom fail!  The contacts just may corrode, but that's what "Crocus Cloth" was made for.  It's residue is not conductive so any powder left over is copper!  Blow away with compressed air or computer keyboard cleaner canned air.



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Posted 03 January 2017 - 04:45 PM

Mike I will enlage the images and post them in a larger format so I hope you can see them better.  I to have problems seeing things.

 

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I hope this helps Mike.

 

The color diagram matches the numbering on the headlight relay in the FSM black and white diagram.  Wire colors on the headlight relays match in both diagrams.

 

We still need Mike RL411 to comment if the numbering ing the diagrams are correct. 


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Posted 03 January 2017 - 07:42 PM

Hey,

 

I'm the one who created the colorized diagram. Mike is correct that the numbers do not match the sequence, BUT the sequence shown matches the car.

 

The colors match the numbering on the stock diagram and also the physical sequence on the relay itself (that is, Green/White #1 is closest to firewall).

 

I do see that I colored #2 as Red/Black, per the stock diagram, although on my cars it is actually Black/Red. So, I will fix that when I next get a chance.

 

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 08:41 PM

Hey guys just out of curiosity is there a particular Webber upgrade For a 1967 RL411 sss?

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 04:53 PM

Hey guys just out of curiosity is there a particular Webber upgrade For a 1967 RL411 sss?

Not that I've ever seen, coolest carb upgrade would be, in my opinion, the optional or aftermarket Dual carb manifold with some Solex Phh2 40s.
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Posted 10 January 2017 - 05:00 PM

That would be awesome thanks !!!

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Posted 14 January 2017 - 06:04 PM

Have been snowed in for 2 weeks. this showed up today.... 

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Posted 14 January 2017 - 06:06 PM

and this is in the mail for me.
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Posted 23 January 2017 - 02:49 PM

and this is in the mail for me

 

Do want! Very nice! eBay?



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Posted 23 January 2017 - 02:49 PM

Have been snowed in for 2 weeks. this showed up today.... 

 

Radio face plate?



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Posted 23 January 2017 - 05:40 PM

Do want! Very nice! eBay?

Yeah, It's the japan version gauge cluster for the R411. have been watching it for months, finally dropped the coin on it.

 

Radio face plate?

Unobtainable radio delete face :)

I also have this Jeco clock, kind of fits. still looking for the OEM version, really getting anxious to work on the car, it's trapped in a garage surrounded by 2 feet of ice/snow that I don't want to shovel. 
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Posted 04 February 2017 - 06:18 PM

Shoveled it out from the snow, took it on a drive, couldn't get it out of high gear, it's the 3 speed bw35. couldn't climb hills worth a damn must have been sitting too long. time for a flush? wouldn't kick down either. 
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A before picture.

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Posted 04 February 2017 - 11:40 PM

looking good Reza!!

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Posted 04 February 2017 - 11:45 PM

Can't wait to see that cluster installed! Cool piece!


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Posted 05 February 2017 - 09:50 AM

Hey Reza that color a stock option for that year and model?

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Posted 05 February 2017 - 02:13 PM

Can't wait to see that cluster installed! Cool piece!

Thanks, I dig it, all refurbished and installed.
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Hey Reza that color a stock option for that year and model?

stock color, has had a respray on the front passenger fender years ago but otherwise stock, It still has the dealership sticker on the rear panel. 


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