Rear axle hub conversion for cv's?

[heywier427]

Has anyone tried to change the rear axle hubs so we can get a standard cv in there with out all the adapters and such?

 

I wish I didn't already have so many projects happening!!!!

 

Seems completely doable.

 

The hub below has the same 27 inner spline count as the Subaru axles. I would imagine we would just have to find something that fits in there lengthwise.

 

 

 

Wheel hub bearing 40202-90J00

put in the cart Wheel Hub Bearing

Front Axle

Outer Diameter 1/2 : 42/68

Height : 70

Number of Holes : 4

Number of Teeth : 27

NISSAN:NISSAN PRIMERA (P10)

NISSAN PRIMERA Hatchback (P10

[510T]

It has been done.  I think it was the "Grasshopper" Targa Newfoundland rally 510.  If I remember correctly they cut the hub housing off of the trailing arm and welded on the one from a Z31 300zx.

 

 

The build (epic)

 

http://www.the510realm.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=837

[heywier427]

No No, that's silly, and a lot of work :)

 

Simply using a Honda or Nissan outer 4x114 hub, either finding a bearing with the correct inner and outer diameter, or mill down the hub to accept the stock bearing, and find a cv that will work.

 

Ive been looking for a complete rear crossmember for a while to tack up Byrons brackets, but its slim pickens out here on the east coast!

 

Could def. use it for mocking this up as well!

 

I hate not being able to drive my car on nice days :)

[510T]

I understood what you meant, that was just one of the only 510's I have seen get away from adapters.  I hate them too, especially when I notice they are all loose right before a trackday. :frantics:

 

Josh K. may have done something else too but I think his method involved machining and welding.

 

Let me know when you come up with a solution!  :ninja:

 

 

 

Drove mine 145 miles to work and back today, I need to do that more often.  B)  Not quite as fun as the track but...  :devil:

[scooter stuff]

This is how we did our shop 510. It's in one of the pics. We cut the outboard shaft off and welded a flange to bolt to the hub.

http://www.metalworksclassics.com/project-sub.php?id=182

[scooter stuff]

This is how we did our shop 510. It's in one of the pics. We cut the outboard shaft off and welded a flange to bolt to the hub.

http://www.metalworksclassics.com/project-sub.php?id=182

They're WRX CV's

[heywier427]

Welding them up tonight.

 

Cant stand the vibrations anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Your link goes to the entire build, not the cv's. And I'm way to lazy to look through it all :)

 

[heywier427]

Found it.

 

Well that's a pretty easy fucking solution!

 

[heywier427]

All the god damn cv reading ive been doing, and I didn't stumble across that picture!

 

WTF!

 

That is by far the easiest/ most cost effective solution so far. Good deal!

[heywier427]

Scooter Stuff.

 

I'm kinda upset at you right now!

 

I'm searching the internet, ratsun, and the realm, and am not finding you posting this anywhere?!?!

 

Is this the first time your showing how you did this?

 

I'm $350.00 into my cv set up, and still have to buy and cut down my center axles. +/- 200.00

 

Your solution can cost as low as 90.00 which is both axles shipped by rock auto. Then just cut and fab up the plate. Free if you can weld and measure...

 

Ive been reading cv stuff for at least 3 weeks, and never came across that picture.

 

I just bought 2 more axles, and my unfinshed set up will be for sale!

 

Def. going your route, as the axle shaft vibrations are totally killing my driving experience! Will think about hub swapping when I get another crossmember.

[scooter stuff]

This was done about 3 years ago

[thisismatt]

This is how we did our shop 510. It's in one of the pics. We cut the outboard shaft off and welded a flange to bolt to the hub.

http://www.metalworksclassics.com/project-sub.php?id=182

 

Did you sell that car, or were you at the Solvang show?

[scooter stuff]

We sold it last year.

[thisismatt]

Ah, saw it at the roadster show

[q-tip]

I think there is a guy on the realm that is putting a narrowed mistake rear subframe in his 510, way more work than what scooter's shop did.

[heywier427]

And welded.

 

 

 

Scooter, Did you also shorten the Subaru axle? As I can not find any that look that short. The cv's I got to make these adapters are way too long. Even with the end cut off!

 

Ive looked up a bunch of wrx front and rears, and none of them measure close to the approximate 20" needed.

[scooter stuff]

And welded.

 

 

 

Scooter, Did you also shorten the Subaru axle? As I can not find any that look that short. The cv's I got to make these adapters are way too long. Even with the end cut off!

 

Ive looked up a bunch of wrx front and rears, and none of them measure close to the approximate 20" needed.

Yes, we sent them to Dutchman to be shortened and re splined.

[Josh K.]

I did the same thing and had Dutchman shorten the shafts.

 

 

 

 

 

[heywier427]

I just ordered a bunch of 27 spine axles from autozone to try fit up.

 

Going to find one that is the correct length and slips into the diff. I used surtraks website to make sure I was not ordering blindly.

 

Then we will only need to make and weld the wheel side.

 

Will keep all posted.

 

Just want to simplify things.

[datsunfreak]

Then we will only need to make and weld the wheel side.

 

Will keep all posted.

 

Can't wait.   B)

[datsunfreak]

Yes, we sent them to Dutchman to be shortened and re splined.

 

While this is a much cleaner approach, any reason you can think of why you couldn't cut and splice? Utilizing a steel sleeve that had an ID that matches the axle OD of course.

 

FYI, would not be in a high HP application. Although I have seen it done using an S13 rear suspension in an SR-powered 510 wagon. 

[Lockleaf]

http://interparts.com/download.htm

 

These catalogs can also be of help. The one called "blank shafts" has all the spline info on just the inner shafts without cv joints.

 

Meaning you might find you can use x joints on y shaft and build a perfect solution. I was using this when I was researching an s13 IRS swap into my wagon.

[scooter stuff]

While this is a much cleaner approach, any reason you can think of why you couldn't cut and splice? Utilizing a steel sleeve that had an ID that matches the axle OD of course.

 

FYI, would not be in a high HP application. Although I have seen it done using an S13 rear suspension in an SR-powered 510 wagon.

Paying to have someone shorten them is cheaper than labor.

[Laecaon]

I looked into, and unless you are an amazing welder, you will break something. Leave it to the pros.

[Lockleaf]

I've always been told that axleshafts are heat treated, so any welding makes them weaker. That being said, I think for any daily driven car, not performance oriented, could get away with it ok.