Datsun 1200 Upgrade front brake caliper

[LUIS COLCHETE]

Hi!

 

I m looking to upgrade front brake caliper and pads of my Datsun, i ve 13" whells, 

 

I ve seen on forum, 280zx modifications, but i dont if is necessary more changes.

 

 

What you advice to do?

 

 

Many thanks 

 

 

Luis

 

[graveltrapp]

Do a search for the mklotz 1200 brake upgrade.

There are lots of good reasons to keep your stock struts and just maybe beef up the brakes a bit.

[datsunfreak]

Do a search for the mklotz 1200 brake upgrade.

 

What he said.  

 

http://community.ratsun.net/topic/24226-1200-brake-upgrade-mklotz70/

 

 

I m looking to upgrade front brake caliper and pads of my Datsun, i ve 13" whells, 

 

I ve seen on forum, 280zx modifications, but i dont if is necessary more changes.

 

280ZX brakes don't really work with 13" wheels. You'll also need to source 79-83 210 controls arms, tie rods, TC rods, steering knuckles, and ball joints to do that swap. 

[LUIS COLCHETE]

Many thanks for your advices.

 

I will keep the stock struts, let me know how i beef up the stock brakes a bit?

 

Many thanks

 

 

Luis

[LUIS COLCHETE]

How i will upgrade front disc brakes with stock stuts? 

[njoz1200ute]

My understanding is that you can't really upgrade them with the stock struts and keep a 13" wheel.  

 

If you want to go larger than the mklotz 280zx upgrade is the way to go but you will need a 14" + wheel or talk to them about what specific 13" wheels fit because some of them do fit even with the upgrade.

[graveltrapp]

I believe that 13's were working.

That was the purpose of the kit.

[graveltrapp]

Ok it is 14's my bad.

[Morrisun]

Luis: Post pictures of the wheels you want to run on your car, front side as well as the backside of the front wheels along with the size and back spacing. That would help!

[datsunfreak]

I believe that 13's were working.

That was the purpose of the kit.

 

 

Ok it is 14's my bad.

 

I have the mklotz kit on my car and have tried three different 13" wheels and they all fit fine with no rubbing. Your mileage may vary...

[datsunfreak]

I will keep the stock struts, let me know how i beef up the stock brakes a bit?

 

The stock brakes are the stock brakes. Once you "beef them up" they aren't the stock brakes any longer.   ;)

 

How i will upgrade front disc brakes with stock stuts? 

 

Well...  :cool:

 

http://community.ratsun.net/topic/24226-1200-brake-upgrade-mklotz70/

[LUIS COLCHETE]

 

6.0 x 13 Minilite Mag Style / Bolt - On 4x114.3 ET +12  My actual wheels

 

 

 

 

My brake discs

 

I want upgrad them.. but im expecting your help...and experience

[LUIS COLCHETE]

Which is the best choice to upgrade front disc brakes, keeping the struts and my actual 13" wheels?

 

If change the front brakes,the alignemet with rear wheels will keep fine?

[Morrisun]

Luis:

As I tried  to tell you, it all comes down to WHEELS!

IF you lay a straight edge, that is 396mm long, centered. on the INSIDE of the wheel pictured-against the wheel mounting surface? - does the straight edge hit the spokes? Does it lay flat? IF the straight edge contacts the ANY part of the rim OR spokes- and is NOT COMPLETELY FLAT, against the wheel mounting surface -YOUR wheels will NOT work with Klotz/Morrisun front brake kit! So will they work?? OR not??

And yes, this brake kit widens the front by about 14.5mm

Luis, do your homework!

[Lockleaf]

Does ebc or hawk or anyone make a pad that would fit? Are the calipers the same as a 510? Could 510 calipers be used? I believe there are high grade pads for the 510.

[datsunfreak]

Does ebc or hawk or anyone make a pad that would fit? 

 

This is a fairly easy thing to find out for yourself.   B)

 

 

Are the calipers the same as a 510? 

 

Not even close. Not even the same design. 

 

 

Could 510 calipers be used? 

 

No. See above. 

[datsunfreak]

Does ebc or hawk or anyone make a pad that would fit? 

 

Hawk Street:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HAWK-PERFORMANCE-770275-PREMIUM-FRONT-DISC-BRAKE-PADS-FOR-NISSAN-SENTRA-85-90-/171634463048?fits=Year%3A1987%7CMake%3ANissan%7CModel%3ASentra&hash=item27f6361148:g:nNYAAOSwQItUFR70&vxp=mtr

 

Hawk Blue:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HB475E-642-Hawk-Motorsports-Performance-Blue-9012-Compound-Front-Brake-Pads-/311531397979?fits=Year%3A1987%7CMake%3ANissan%7CModel%3ASentra&hash=item4888b7e35b:g:000AAOSw--1WtYys&vxp=mtr

 

Hawk Steet Plus:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HB475F-642-Hawk-High-Performance-Street-Front-Brake-Pads-/231815191780?fits=Year%3A1987%7CMake%3ANissan%7CModel%3ASentra&hash=item35f9431ce4:g:RDAAAOSwL7VWmVro&vxp=mtr

 

EBC Green:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EBC-DP2452-Greenstuff-2000-Series-Sport-Front-Brake-Pads-/311404400064?fits=Year%3A1987%7CMake%3ANissan%7CModel%3ASentra&hash=item4881260dc0:g:pJYAAOSwjVVVqJZ6&vxp=mtr

 

EBC Red:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EBC-DP3452C-Redstuff-Ceramic-Low-Dust-Front-Brake-Pads-/301690119137?fits=Year%3A1987%7CMake%3ANissan%7CModel%3ASentra&hash=item463e21e3e1:g:9KoAAOSwd0BVqIvi&vxp=mtr

 

EBC Yellow: 

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DP4452R-EBC-Yellowstuff-Front-Brake-Pads-/311403631821?fits=Year%3A1987%7CMake%3ANissan%7CModel%3ASentra&hash=item48811a54cd:g:Ng8AAOSwd0BVp0GQ&vxp=mtr

 

That took 10 seconds...   ^_^

[njoz1200ute]

 

 

That took 10 seconds...   ^_^

 

 

 

Not all of us have fast internet like you.   I still use 56k.

[Morrisun]

I run EBC Yellows on Smurf, and they work very well!

[Lockleaf]

My point was not to do his research, but to offer him new ideas to pursue. You're right, none of those were terribly difficult questions. thanks for the answers though.

[LUIS COLCHETE]

My dificult is not the choice of brakes pads.

 

 

My dificult is: i want get better front brakes. What you have done in yours Datsun 1200?  What you bought to fit under 13" wheels?

 

entire front suspension from a 79-83 210 with brakes? it takes advantages? I think will not? I m searching on ebay Nissan s13 brakes, IFor me is a good choice.

 

The problem is the measures i dont have any. Some people says s13 brakes and discs fits under 13" wheels??????

 

Im counting with your experinces

 

Many thanks on advance

 

Luis

[Lockleaf]

The pads will give you better braking. Is that not what you are looking for? S13 won't clear 13s any better than the mklotz upgrade kit will.

 

What specifically do you mean by better brakes, if better pads aren't helpful at all? Are you wanting larger rotors? Vented rotors?

[LUIS COLCHETE]

Man thanks for your quicly replies and sorry if i dont understand something that you told me before (very helpful during my other projects)

 

I have upgrade my engine i have to remove my brake booster,  and to compensate it, i decide to have big rotor brakes with big pads, so i have searching on RATSUN, and find somes great brake projects, I can try better pads but my original one are similar like these one 

 

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DATSUN-1200-Front-Disk-Brake-Pads-GENUINE-Fits-NISSAN-B110-B210-120Y-GX-Coupe-/221313925553?hash=item33875681b1:g:iQEAAOSwnDxUcZuM

 

if you have more ideias, i am all ears

 

Many thanks

 

 

Luis

[datsunfreak]

My point was not to do his research, but to offer him new ideas to pursue. You're right, none of those were terribly difficult questions. thanks for the answers though.

 

Sorry, I thought you were talking about pads to fit the Sentra caliper, ala mklotz kit. 

 

And I was just having a bit of fun...    ^_^

[datsunfreak]

My dificult is: i want get better front brakes. What you have done in yours Datsun 1200?  What you bought to fit under 13" wheels?

 

If you are set on using your 13" wheels, there are only three options...

 

1. Find some better pads for the stock calipers.

2. Get the mklotz parts and cross your fingers that they clear. 

3. See below.

 

 

entire front suspension from a 79-83 210 with brakes? it takes advantages? I think will not?

 

It is an upgrade across the board. Better calipers, bigger rotors, beefier lower control arms, etc. And it will fit under your 13" wheels. 

 

I have used that in a car with a hot rod A14, and a lightly modified A15. Worked just fine for that.