mapball Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I finally have time (and money!) to give my lil hustler the attention that it needs. Everything was running fine until I decided to "upgrade" the stock 4 speed to a dogleg (FS5W63A). Love the extra gear, but the bearings were SHOT! :mad: argh... Now I cant find any shop willing to work on it. Any recommended shops out there? I really miss driving this truck as often as I used to, so much that i'd be willing to live with the 4 speed! Except, that I love getting out of town with this truck and gear 5 makes for a relaxing ride. Any advice would be appreciated! Mark Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I would think any transmission shop could fix it? Can they just not find parts for it, or? 1 Quote Link to comment
Rick-rat Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I put a 3.89 differential in mine and was fine with the 4 speed, L16 and would easily cruise 75-80 on the freeway 1 Quote Link to comment
mapball Posted January 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I definitely will consider changing out the rear end, thanks for the suggestion Rick. Any issues hauling heavier loads with your setup? I'm running an L20 so i assume i'd have a bit more low end grunt to get by with. I like to us the truck for hauling things like garbage runs, or concrete/paver runs from home depot. I want to eventually use it to haul motorcycles. Every shop I have called, it seems the moment i mention 70's datsun they say they cant do it or they send me down a dead end referral. I might have to see if i can source the parts myself, pull the tranny and drop it off at a shop and say here you fix, me pay. Either that or gather the courage and do it myself! any suggestion on where to get the parts I would appreciate that as well. Quote Link to comment
Rick-rat Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 It probably will be harder on you clutch, I never hauled over 100 lbs in the back of mine That truck looks familiar, where did you get it? Put an ad in the classifieds for a transmission, someone must have one, or try facebook, lots of parts there too Quote Link to comment
G-Duax Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 I bought my kit American Powertrain: http://www.americanpowertrainwarehouse.com/fs5w71-fs5w71a-fs5w71c-fs5w71e-fs5w71g-fs5w71h/ It didn't have all the bearings, but it had most of them. On the needle bearing inside 1st gear, the race was screwed by too many clutch dumps, but I was able to find an industrial replacement that was just 2mm too long, and was easily shortened in my lathe with a tool post grinder. It did have all the seals, & syncros. I can tell you, the 71B is much easier than the Toyota counterpart, the W-series. The W-series needed a special puller made for each gear, and syncro assembly. Most of the gears in the 71B just slid off the shafts, just like in the 4-speed that was in my 311. Only a couple of items needed a puller, and then it didn't take much. If you decide to dive into it yourself, here is the manual on line: http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/280z/1978/MT%20Manual%20Transmission.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Rockauto has most parts. I know a guy that is going to go thru is 5 speed trans soon on his 510. He lives in Auburn. Hes pretty good but does this on his stuff. I cant believe these shops cant do this!!!!!!!!!!newer trans are alot more complicated Thats a awesome truck I can maybe give you his number and maybe txt him 3 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 L20B and hauling things??? Better get a 71B from a later year 620 or z/zx 810 car. The dogleg won't stand up to that for long. Fix and sell to a 510 owner with a 600 pound lighter car and 1/6 liter engine. The 71B is made to handle a six cylinder 2.4 to 2.8 liter engine. 1 Quote Link to comment
That4doorKiD Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 The dogleg won't stand up to that for long. Hey mike my tranny was acting up from water getting inside cause I added tranny fluid that was contaminated.(didn't know til after) It was running for about 2 months good and recently it took a dump. My L-16 revs high and I barely start moving=no acceleration, I need to give it gas slowly and release the clutch super slow. At first I thought it was my clutch wearing out, but I replaced it and pressure plate, TO bearing etc... and the clutch wasn't the problem.. SO HOW bad is my tranny damaged? Any Ideas, and PS I really dont want to take it out again Quote Link to comment
That4doorKiD Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Never mind :crying: read up and found out it needs a rebuild once any damage is done. Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 If you can shift through all the gears and it's the same in all gears. If it's moving, and not grinding and making terrible sounds.. it's likely not a tranny issue. Is it making any funky sounds? 1 Quote Link to comment
That4doorKiD Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 If you can shift through all the gears and it's the same in all gears. If it's moving, and not grinding and making terrible sounds.. it's likely not a tranny issue. Is it making any funky sounds? no funky sounds, I haven't even tried to go faster than 3rd gear yet Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Likely clutch related or slave/master issue. 1 Quote Link to comment
That4doorKiD Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Likely clutch related or slave/master issue. water was in my transmission Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 water was in my transmission Yea.. so. In there is a bunch of gears. Some syncros.. bearings. If anything went wrong with any of those parts it would either not shift into gear.. you would be missing gears entirely, it would make droning noises for bad bearings, it would lockup or make horrible crunching noises. Water is not good for a transmission, but it wouldn't cause your symptoms. Long term it would cause severe damage.. leading to what I mentioned above. Move the car somewhere like the middle of a residential road. Make sure there is plenty of space in front of you.. as in nothing anywhere around your car. Apply the brake. Release the clutch and shift into 5th. Rev the engine up and dump the clutch. If the engine doesn't die immediately, your clutch is slipping. If it's difficult to get the clutch to dis-engage by pressing the pedal.. or you have to double clutch to get it in and out of gear, then you have an issue with the master/slave. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 My L-16 revs high and I barely start moving=no acceleration, I need to give it gas slowly and release the clutch super slow. Sounds like engine power related. If it idles but has severe lack of grunt to pull away from a start then primary jet part blocked? timing out? Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 4door kid You dont have this going yet? sounds like a carb or timming issue. esp if you know you have compression in all for cylinders. make sure motor mechanicall timmed then electrically timmed. unless the trans ran out of oil or soemthing(binding) Quote Link to comment
That4doorKiD Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 My car was running great for 2 months til this happened. And THAT'S THE THING IT SOUNDS FINE LIKE IT DOESN"T BOGG DOWN OR ANYTHING ?? no grunt or hard time pulling away from 1st, it just doesn't accelerate. Quote Link to comment
Colbino Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Give Oliver a call over at http://www.datsunstore.com/ I'm sure he'll know someone whom can help with a quality rebuild. Best- 1 Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 ck the electrical timming put the down draft back on pop the gas cap in case you not venting. I think this is a simple fix. (In meantime dont get anybody pregnant) 3 Quote Link to comment
Burabuda Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 i believe 63a rebuild bits ran dry decades ago? Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 You can still get the bearings. Maybe there is another syncro that would work? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I'll check but most 71B synchros might. Or several do. Poor acceleration is engine power related or your E brake is on. 1 Quote Link to comment
mapball Posted January 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 changing gears.. (yes, pun intended) I'm taking a look at this tonight http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/pts/5404870704.html and Bill (who I'm sure some of you know) said he would swap the case to allow it to work on my truck. This is not a 71B no? but should work fine with my setup?? Oliver seems like a good dude and I will definitely check with him on sourcing a rebuild kit, but he's not had time to take a closer look at my truck. He's either really busy or real lazy - but it's been since around early DEC that ive been trying to throw money his way and he keeps pushing me out a couple of weeks. Rick, I picked this truck up from datdoug a few years ago. Remember this blustery day? 3 Quote Link to comment
mapball Posted January 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 if i can source a complete kit from several other kits that would be great! 4doorKID, would you like to buy a dogleg? ;) Quote Link to comment
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