drowning in broken cars Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Hey all, starting a big project with my 210 and was wondering about the possibilities of bolting up a power steering box from another car like a z. splines, bolt pattern etc. looking at pictures of them and comparing to my stock manual steering box they look very similar just wondering if anyone has ever done this or if someone could take a couple measurements or chime in. Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 The 210 steering box is similar to most PL510/610/710/HL510s and is tight against the firewall. The 280zx and the S110sx (slightly larger cars) have a power steering option powered by an engine driven hydraulic pump. The thing is, is that the power assist is built into the back of the box where the steering column enters it. I'm looking into doing a power assist steering in my 710 (using an S110 box) and when installed, the back of the box extends back into the cabin through the floor. I think it will work if the column is shortened and the opening in the floor covered somehow. Confounding the problem is the collapsible nature of the column. Then a pump must be belt driven off the front engine pulley. A 210 is quite light and doesn't need PS that bad. Go to the gym. :lol: Quote Link to comment
drowning in broken cars Posted January 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Lol yea I get that, just with the swap Im doing, heavier motor/alot of power, power steering would be nice insurance to keep it out of the ditch. Can do without power steering but that doesnt mean it wouldnt be easier to correct/countersteer with power steering. thanks for the info though, sounds like the power steering boxes are quite a bit longer and wouldnt fit without some cutting/welding/fabrication. Quote Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Push ups. Quote Link to comment
drowning in broken cars Posted January 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Ah awesome thanks for the visual. yea yea pushups lol. doing a 2jzgte swap, was thinking power steering wouldnt be a bad idea but guess il have to do without. Quote Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Ah awesome thanks for the visual. yea yea pushups lol. doing a 2jzgte swap, was thinking power steering wouldnt be a bad idea but guess il have to do without. 2jz in a 210? And you think leaving power steering off is the bad idea. Your username just works. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 What does a jizz weigh? I imagine the A series is 200 and change, a little less than an L16's 265? Quote Link to comment
drowning in broken cars Posted January 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 400~ pounds. Also have a dana 30 rear axle though which will atleast somewhat help with the weight distribution. yea i knew id get some flaming etc for doing this swap. why is a jz in a 210 such a bad idea? Besidez obvious things like there being easier swaps like sr/etc? Quote Link to comment
drowning in broken cars Posted January 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 2jz in a 210? And you think leaving power steering off is the bad idea. Your username just works. think thats a bad idea lol? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 KAs are around 350 and VGs are just under 400. Won't handle as well is all. Quote Link to comment
drowning in broken cars Posted January 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Yea I agree it will definitely be a straight line car, and the swap wont be for the faint of heart, planning on boxing the firewall probably 4~ inches, possibly square off the strut towers for clearance etc. Quote Link to comment
drowning in broken cars Posted January 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Thank you for the power steering info though, as usual you are the man with the ancient datsun lore Quote Link to comment
Ratdat.com Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 Just thought I'd chip in on this with a suggestion from this side of the pond. Here, retrofit power steering has become pretty popular, particularly in rallying and the standard route is now Electronic Power Steering (EPS). The advantage being you can make it variable, fixed rate or even switch it off as required. Typical applications here are Mk1 and Mk2 Ford Escort which are catered for by numerous companies. Here's a typical universal set-up... http://www.dcelectronics.co.uk/Products/EPAS/ Most of the DIY conversions use parts from the Vauxhall or Opel Corsa here. I don't think GM sold a version of that in North America but they are bound to have used the equipment on another model there I would think. The added bonus of EPS is there's no need to accomodate the PAS pump and pipework, nor the much larger PAS steering box. It takes a bit of fabrication to install but it's often a better option especially for big engine swaps into small cars! 1 Quote Link to comment
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