DISLEXICDIME Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 what would you use to clean this up i already have a have a wire wheel set for my grinder. But what are you guys using chemically to neutralize the rust and keep it gone. and to seal it! It has not eating through it yet so i am trying to save it ! Quote Link to comment
bagged_datsun Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 I use this stuff called POR-15 it works great....just paint it over the rust and it neutralizes it and turns it to a hard black finish(eather flat or gloss what ever you like better lol):) Quote Link to comment
Pacific coast Datsun Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Recently Mklotz posted a few different ways to neutralize/eliminate rust. One of the ways was to use mollasses but it may take awhile. Maybe somebody can search & find his post. Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 I'm hoping to update that thread soon, but it may not be until after Canby. The molasses is working great, but it's more for dipping stuff into and letting it sit. It wouldn't work for his floor boards. The Ospho stuff that Beebani has talked about would probably work well, but I still haven't found any of it(only called one place) Navel Jelly should work to, once the heavy stuff if removed with the wire wheel. Oh...Rust-O-Leum (sp?) makes a converter paint. Goes clear, turns black. Rust Doctor would be easy to use...doesn't give off the noxious fumes and odor of POR15 and it cleans up with water. You'll want to put a top coat over which ever you use. Post pics of wha you do. Quote Link to comment
Bleach Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 I usually use the wire brush or sanding first to get as much of the rust off as I can. Then the POR15 on that. Then a sealer spraypaint. Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 I'm using por15 on my rust...note to self buy some more gloves tonight :P Quote Link to comment
hang_510 Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 I usually use the wire brush or sanding first to get as much of the rust off as I can.... makes me feel better to know most of its gone first too. ive used 'ospho' with excellent results. :D rust came back in the worst spot(small) on the roof rail, but its also sitting in moist sea air. Quote Link to comment
Velvetpants57 Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 a word of warning about por15, it does not neutralize the rust, all it does is seal it. and what i mean by this is, it encapsulates the rust. ie it makes a rust sandwich between the sheet metal and por15. so if you have any moisture that is not gone it will in fact rust out faster than if you would have just left it alone. words to the wise. i have had it happen twice, and had it happen at many of the body shops around town. what i have found works best is; use some metal prep/ospho type chemical to neutralize the rust. then gride/wire brush it out as clean as possible. ospho/metal prep one more time. skuff off with some scotch brite pad (maroon medium grit) and then por 15 over top Quote Link to comment
DISLEXICDIME Posted June 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 any one used zero rust? Quote Link to comment
Velvetpants57 Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 yes i have used it and it works well. it is the same stuff as marhyde metal prep or marhyde de-rust or whatever brands make a chemical rust converter. Quote Link to comment
DISLEXICDIME Posted June 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 I am sending in the grinder wire wheel combo any resistance will be handle buy the wire brush the second wave will be the por 15 metal ready and the last wave in the line of rust annihilation will be the por 15 it self all while bumping some phat tunes in my i pod lol Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 Recently Mklotz posted a few different ways to neutralize/eliminate rust. One of the ways was to use mollasses but it may take awhile. Maybe somebody can search & find his post. Tried it and the molasses worked like a charm. I put it on and went in for a coffee, when I came out the dog had licked all the rust off! thanks Mike!! Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 You're welcome! :) Where was the 'ospho' bought and is there a brand name other than that?........never mind...just called Industrial Finishes and got an gallon on order for $35. That's certainly no where near as cheap as muriatic acid!!!! oh well. Quote Link to comment
BEEBANI Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 Just remember Mike, it also removes zinc plating. So if you use it on hardware that is plated, it wont be when you're done! Quote Link to comment
DISLEXICDIME Posted June 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 HERE ARE PICS OF THE FLOORS AFTER THE WIRE WHEEL JOB I WILL POST PICS OF WHAT THEY LOOK WITH THE POOR 15 PAINTED ON SOON Quote Link to comment
slodat Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Looking good buddy! Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 I hurt just thinking about doing all that work!! Nice!!! Quote Link to comment
DISLEXICDIME Posted June 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 thats why i was out of it at canby. I did all that friday and painted it friday night. then drove it to canby Quote Link to comment
slodat Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 be careful with that paint stuff. can cause dain bramage Quote Link to comment
DISLEXICDIME Posted June 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 be careful with that paint stuff. can cause dain bramage yah be carefull when using por 15 it dont smell to strong but trust me it will kick your ass i learned my lesson! Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Where's the finished pics? :D Quote Link to comment
V-Dot Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 I'm a floor layer by trade, and one my friends in the same union as me does all the flooring for BC Ferries, all the floors are made of steel so before anything new goes on over top any rust has to be neutralized. They use a product called blu-steel. Its super industrial strength and guaranteed for 30 years. I know that BC ferries doesn't screw around with stuff like this. its either the best or nothing at all. I was gonna try to get some for the whole underside of my truck the some good undercoating. Quote Link to comment
71-521 Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 that would be cool to get a hold of... Quote Link to comment
DISLEXICDIME Posted June 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 not the best pics but here they are they look alot better in person. Sorry i didnot have time to take pics befor canby but i only had 3 hours of sleep be for i went on saturday. So i just ended up bolting up my seat's that saturday morning and taking off. man buy the time i got there i was high from the pain fumes wooo! front passenger floor pan rear passenger floor the rest look the same. Quote Link to comment
DISLEXICDIME Posted June 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 all the brown flake you see in there is dirt not rust ! Quote Link to comment
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