Andres131313 Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Hey guys. With my engine build finally done im looking for a new fun project. I want to build a high HP engine that i can drop into my 510 from time to time to have some fun. (i know it doesn't sound practical but i just want to have my same engine in the car when driving the street and have a more powerful engine when going to the track). With that said i have done some research on engines to use and asked a few friends. The engines i have decided to look into more: turbo l20b, n/a z24 with an l series head, ka24de, or sr20de. the turbo l20 is on the list because im familiar with it. not much power z24 or z22. it would fit in the car easily. a little more power then what i have now now the ka24de has a larger displacement and more power. What ive heard is that it shakes when getting to a high rpm that could shorten its life. the head can be modified to flow like an sr20 and the valve train is more stable then the sr20. the sr20 has a smaller displacement. the shorter stroke can allow it to rev higher but the valve train is know to come apart ( what ive heard). apparently there are more after market and options for the sr20 then the KA. So this is going to be a build thread. what engine would you go with and why? note: my engine bay can fit all of theres engines with no problems. Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 into my 510 from time to time to have some fun? WTF? How many cars you own? YOu rich? Have garage? Going from L to to LZ is OK as you dont need to swap cables also SR/KA back to a L series dont make any sense Just go stock SR then and keep it in. How about buy another car done up already. going by your previous write ups just stick with what you have and call it good Save a junker L motor car/truck with what knowledge you have 1 Quote Link to comment
Mr.Dean_Yates Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Have you considered a ka24e? A guy I know in Tucson put a ka24e in his dime, did a few small upgrades and that thing is quick. Turbo kits are fairly easy to come by too. That's the route I would go personally if I were building a race motor for a dime. 1 Quote Link to comment
TENDRIL Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 he still has to smog every two years, and he has a A10 not a dime, and i still dont even know if thats for real, as he has never posted a pic.... 1 Quote Link to comment
Mr.Dean_Yates Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 I want to build a high HP engine that i can drop into my 510 from time to time. The man said 510 lol 1 Quote Link to comment
kelowg Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Its real. Id say turboed LZ. tho ka likely the easiest. 1 Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 You didn't say what type of racing you'd be doing. Drag racing, circle track, road course, autocross? High performance engines are a commitment. They need constant love and attention to stay alive and healthy. Valvetrains get soft, bearings wear, tuning is super critical too. You can easily burn an engine down with improper tuning. If you don't want to do a bunch of expensive maintenance, I would go with the old saying that there's no replacement for displacement. Install a warmed over KA24 with EFI. You can easily get 250hp out of one in mostly stock trim with some exhaust work, cams, porting and ECU tuning. Personally, I like to open a 510 hood and see a L motor and my favorite L motor is the 2200, which is a 89mm bore, long rod Z20 with an L head. They rev easily and can make well over 200hp. That is a high maintenance motor though. Based on your previous posts it sounds like you have a steep learning curve ahead of you, but keep at it. Nothing worth having comes easily. 2 Quote Link to comment
Andres131313 Posted October 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 he still has to smog every two years, and he has a A10 not a dime, and i still dont even know if thats for real, as he has never posted a pic.... You going to busta's bbq? Good enough? 1 Quote Link to comment
Andres131313 Posted October 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Drag racing Quote Link to comment
Andres131313 Posted October 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 into my 510 from time to time to have some fun? WTF? How many cars you own? YOu rich? Have garage? Going from L to to LZ is OK as you dont need to swap cables also SR/KA back to a L series dont make any sense Just go stock SR then and keep it in. How about buy another car done up already. going by your previous write ups just stick with what you have and call it good Save a junker L motor car/truck with what knowledge you have Ya ummm I have to still smog my car unlike you guys so it would have to be an engine that can go in and out. I have the time to do stuff like that. I have the money to start working on it so it would be nice to have an engine just for the track. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Stop calling it a 510 unless you really have a 510. It's an A10 so call it an A10. So how does that engine run now after spinning the rod bearings and scoring the crank? Is this why the talk about a 'race engine'? Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 It would be better to call it a 710, or Stanza than 510... Based on your first post, you don't know what you want, and you don't know what each engine is actually capable of. You picked 4 wildly different motors and then tried to compare them... Do more research, figure out what you really want. Quote Link to comment
Andres131313 Posted October 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Stop calling it a 510 unless you really have a 510. It's an A10 so call it an A10. So how does that engine run now after spinning the rod bearings and scoring the crank? Is this why the talk about a 'race engine'? ...no Quote Link to comment
Andres131313 Posted October 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Actually Mike you and I were wrong. The bearings never spun. And the crank was smooth. It wasn't the bearing by the way. Quote Link to comment
Rick-rat Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Drag racing Why don't you just use your 15,000 HP, 750 Cu. in. ( or whatever )hemi and the car it is in for racing and use your Datsun for daily driving? 3 Quote Link to comment
TENDRIL Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 ok, so its all making a little more sense to me with the provided pics.... i dont see any machining equipment or dodge charger or the space for all that ... unless that is another house. we can put this to rest if you would like, please? i think you should keep the motor you have in your A10, and drive it for the next year and enjoy it and start saving monies for a race car and engine and turn your A10 into a parts runner or grocery getter which ever you prefer, with what you want to do you will be spending more time with your car apart then driving it.... or sell your charger and buy a race car with the 8-10k you could easily get from old merican muscle 1 Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Is that to reserve your space for later, or to check in? . 1 Quote Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Is that to reserve your space for later, or to check in? Checking in. I have nothing to say about this but I don't want to lose the thread. But now that I'm prompted...I'm still going to keep my mouth shut. 1 Quote Link to comment
Mr.Dean_Yates Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 This thread makes me wanna... Quote Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 This thread makes me wanna... Have you seen the other engine thread? Better have 2 bullets in there. 1 Quote Link to comment
datson4life Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Ka24de is my opinion, dont listen to rumors, they rev fine, if u wanna live at high rpms just get a harmonic balancer Quote Link to comment
TENDRIL Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 which im pretty sure is built into the crank pully right? 1 Quote Link to comment
datson4life Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 which im pretty sure is built into the crank pully right? I meant the aftermarket one, goes on pulley, or balanced cranks i see sell for around $200 1 Quote Link to comment
Mr.Dean_Yates Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Have you seen the other engine thread? Better have 2 bullets in there. I don't even wanna... Quote Link to comment
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