Datsun 510 ls1 t56

[Datsun510Purist6spdV8]

If only I gave a fuck

[Dolomite]

Isn't 510 purist 6spd v8 a bit hypocritical? Granted, it's your car and you can ruin it as you see fit. One of these days I'm going to rb26dett a 1st gen camaro or mustang as revenge for every ruined import thats victim to a v8 swap.

[DatMo]

Cool. Good luck

[Fat510]

This car has none of the cornering capabilities it used to have

[datsunfreak]

Isn't 510 purist 6spd v8 a bit hypocritical?

 

I'm sure he meant it ironically, not literally.  ^_^

[MicroMachinery]

Isn't 510 purist 6spd v8 a bit hypocritical? Granted, it's your car and you can ruin it as you see fit. One of these days I'm going to rb26dett a 1st gen camaro or mustang as revenge for every ruined import thats victim to a v8 swap.

[mrbigtanker]

Isn't 510 purist 6spd v8 a bit hypocritical? Granted, it's your car and you can ruin it as you see fit. One of these days I'm going to rb26dett a 1st gen camaro or mustang as revenge for every ruined import thats victim to a v8 swap.

I will say thats the dumbest thing i have ever heard. Good luck with that abortion.

[LimpMode]

Welcome to our loving community. Good luck with your build.

[Dirttrack510]

I'm sure no one is trying to offend you, it's just a FACT that a V8 into a dime is a loser, as it ruins all the handling abilities of the car and throws the entire front to rear weight bias completely out whack. I do get the little car/big motor thing, but we've seen lots of failed, unfinished V8 510 builds. A better option for your build would of probably been a V8 Vega or Monza. Everyone likes to go fast, but a much better option is a boosted KA or SR swap. These motors are capable of producing more power than a dime can ever put to the ground and the car still handles properly. Either way, it's your car. Have fun with it and good luck with the build.

[Dolomite]

I will say thats the dumbest thing i have ever heard. Good luck with that abortion.

Irony: making slow people miss the point since 1684.

[datsunfreak]

One of these days I'm going to rb26dett a 1st gen camaro or mustang as revenge for every ruined import thats victim to a v8 swap.

 

Save some time, buy this one...   ^_^

 

 

[datsunfreak]

One of these days I'm going to rb26dett a 1st gen camaro or mustang as revenge for every ruined import thats victim to a v8 swap.

 

Oh, and I love this plan. Been wanting to build an L28ET-powered 62-67 Nova for awhile now...   :rofl:

[Dolomite]

I see at least someone got the joke.

[mrbigtanker]

I see at least someone got the joke.

 

I guess I am not fast like you.duh

[mrbigtanker]

Save some time, buy this one...   ^_^

 

 

 

 

Why

[Lockleaf]

Uhh guys, a solid aluminum LS weighs less than a KADE and any extra trans weight is centered in the car where it matters less. When did we become such haters? I thought that was for the Realm. He isn't asking stupid questions about can it be done, where can I get parts. He showed up with pics of the damn thing already in the car! I give props for that 100%.

 

More pics of install please. Did you use the gto oil pan or go custom, or what? Did you cut the firewall to fit it? How much damage did you have to do to the trans tunnel to fit a t56? Which spec t56 are you using?

 

J30s and q45s came with vlsd R200s if you're ok with that. Otherwise, just look for 240sx limited slip options.

 

Have you done any stitch welding or chassis reinforcing? You're going to need it trying to put that much power to the ground.

 

And for what it's worth I do plan on import raping a classic domestic. I plan to stuff the full suspension and possibly the engine from a Q45 under a 1966 Chrysler Newport. If I go that route it might even get a z32 manual trans. It's all about loving the pieces to build ones ultimate car for yourself. Get off your annoying purist high horses and respect the quality work. Half of us can't even manage to fit a ka in these properly, and he's tucked a v8.

[datzenmike]

Not equipped and ready to run it isn't. The KA is around 380 so lets round to 400. The LS1 is 450 at least. I should imagine the LS1 flywheel is heavier than the KA's 21pound and 'small' 8.8" pressure plate. The 71B trans is 70 pounds so not much difference than the FS5W71C 5 speed but lets round up again to about 80-90 pounds. No way an LS1 is lighter... it's closer than you think though.

 

To put into perspective the stock 510 engine weighs 260 pounds. So even a KA is a hundred pounds heavier.

[Ratwagon1600]

Ok, time for RW's two cents worth.

 

Haters gunna hate, period!

 

I, at one stage contemplated the good ole V6 conversion.

 

Fuck knows, if the current abortion of a shell I have doesnt work out how I want it to, I still may go down that path, and accordingly, get flamed by the rest of the Ratsun bretheren.

 

Im with lockleaf here, shitloads more oics and some splaining needs to be done!

 

In the meantime, I have rust woes to ponder.

[q-tip]

OK new guy here is the deal, you stuff that v8 in that 510! But if you want it to turn when you are done you're going to have to put it about 10" behind the firewall and as low as you can get it. Look at Pete Brock's datzilla for inspiration.

[Lonestar]

Why

Because of people like you, that's why. Not trying to start a fight but really...that is the reason why.

 

Because they said it was stupid, not worth doing, it would never work. They do it just to piss guys like and Mike off and to show that they can do it and make it work. I mean, why build a 1994 Kia that blow the doors off a 2014 vette?

 

510, you've got a dream, dream it, build but most of all....FINISH IT! Hell, you've already got a lot work done to it already from what I can see.

 

I take my hat off and give guys like you a big bravo and thumbs up all the way when you finish something like this. Is it my cup of tea? No but then again I'm not the one driving it so what the fuck should I care? Hell, I like the FF Mustang and was thinking about slapping a rb26dett in a 65 chevy truck, why, because I can and it would be awesome because nobody would see it coming!

[Datsun510Purist6spdV8]

More pics of install please. Did you use the gto oil pan or go custom, or what? Did you cut the firewall to fit it? How much damage did you have to do to the trans tunnel to fit a t56? Which spec t56 are you using?

- Custom truck / silverado oil pan, I thought it would be a bolt in option but the sump was too deep and didn't clear the center link 

- Yes the firewall has been modified / 6-7 inches rearward

- The tunnel too has been highly modified

- Gear Ratios : 2.66, 1.78, 1.30, 1.00, .74, .50 from 02 trans am

 

J30s and q45s came with vlsd R200s if you're ok with that. Otherwise, just look for 240sx limited slip options.

- I haven't heard anything good about vlsd so I'll be sticking with a clsd

- Currently, I have a open 3.9 installed

Have you done any stitch welding or chassis reinforcing?

- I talked to Troy and he too suggested stitch welding so after I finish all the suspension, drivetrain, and wiring I will work on the throwing in some more welds.

[datzenmike]

Because of people like you, that's why. Not trying to start a fight but really...that is the reason why.

 

Because they said it was stupid, not worth doing, it would never work. They do it just to piss guys like and Mike off and to show that they can do it and make it work. I mean, why build a 1994 Kia that blow the doors off a 2014 vette?

 

510, you've got a dream, dream it, build but most of all....FINISH IT! Hell, you've already got a lot work done to it already from what I can see.

 

I take my hat off and give guys like you a big bravo and thumbs up all the way when you finish something like this. Is it my cup of tea? No but then again I'm not the one driving it so what the fuck should I care? Hell, I like the FF Mustang and was thinking about slapping a rb26dett in a 65 chevy truck, why, because I can and it would be awesome because nobody would see it coming!

 

Well, I'm not pissed off, if it gets done and does not end up a ruined 510. For sure it will...

 

Not ever handle like it once did with 150 to 200 extra pounds over the front end. However there are lots of suspension improvements that can minimize this loss.

 

Be incredibly fast on the straights so brakes and suspension must equal it..

[qwik510]

My 2 cents too. But first a little background on my V8 swap experience. I've built 2 Datsun V8 swaps.

 

First one. 1972 Datsun 510 2 door.

 

I built a V8 powered 510 back in the 90's. I too chose an all aluminum V8. I used the Buick/Olds/Rover 215CI 3.5 liter V8. It was mated to a world class T-5 trans.

 

Overall, it was a clean swap and ran well. I did have some issues with heat. Underhood and firewall/trans. tunnel heat was a bit excessive. Did it handle as well as a 510 with an L16? No. But not everyone builds a car to handle its absolute best. I did it cause I wanted to hav a cool 510 with a V8. I had the car for many years.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Next one. 1972 Datsun 240Z

 

In 2004, I swapped an LS1 with a T56 six speed from a 2002 Camaro SS into my clean 240Z. The LS1 transformed the underpowered 240Z into an amazing car. The LS1 replaced a mildly built L28 with dual SU carbs, Motorsport header and a mild cam. Probably 150-160 WHP. I did several track days with the L28 and the car handled pretty well. After the LS1 swap I did a few more track days. Handling was a bit improved. The center of gravity had been moved back ad lower and the much extra power gave the car something it never had before. Throttle Steer. The car was also very reliable and got much better fuel economy then the L28 could ever hope to give. 31 mpg on a 2000 mile round trip from Washington, DC to the Z convention in Daytona Beach, FL. The LS1 was dyno'd at 340RWHP AND 365RWT on a stock motor with headers and a dyno tune.

 

 

 

 

 

To all the haters out there, I too get sickened when a noob comes along and cuts up and ruins a perfectly good Datsun to stuff a V8 into it. But it does not seem that this is the case with this build. I will say that I would not build an LS powered 510 but I admire your efforts and will be watching with excitement to see you build this to completion.

 

There is plenty of info on the weights of the different engines and transmissions availableso I am not going to get into that debate here.

 

And for what it's worth, I used the VLSD R200 from a Q45 and it has been a reliable diff and in use for over 10 years now.

 

Good luck with the build. Keep the pics and updates coming.

[Datsun510Purist6spdV8]

qwik510

 

On the v8 510 is the firewall untouched? 

Did you ever check your weight distribution?

What spring rate and shocks were you running in the front and rear? 

Were you running a rear sway bar?

Was your front sway bar stock ?

[Datsun510Purist6spdV8]