maredlin1@hotmail.com Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Have a 1978 L20b in a 620. Want to bore to 86 mm and use 280z 10:90 dished pistons. Have a w58 closed chamber cylinder head, and use a 32/36 weber, or is there a better combo out there. I would rather not have to burn high octane, but will if I need to. Thanks Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Why is Premium so high in Colorado??? Generally speaking premium gas saves money. It costs 10% more but gets 15% better mileage. But when it costs 20% more then its losing. 2 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Have a 1978 L20b in a 620. Want to bore to 86 mm and use 280z 10:90 dished pistons. Have a w58 closed chamber cylinder head, and use a 32/36 weber, or is there a better combo out there. I would rather not have to burn high octane, but will if I need to. Thanks That combo gives a 9.122 compression. 3 Quote Link to comment
MicroMachinery Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 That combo gives a 9.122 compression. If that's the case, you'll be fine. The closed chamber head design helps with detonation, and 9.1 isn't really that outrageously high of compression to begin with. 1 Quote Link to comment
maredlin1@hotmail.com Posted March 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Thanks for everyone's input. I think this combo is what I will go with, and let you know what octane gas it will run good at. 1 Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 See? Someone here on Ratsun always has an answer. Nice job guys. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Best mileage is high compression and high octane with the timing as advanced as safely possible. Try just regular gas and adjust the timing by ear so there is a just barely noticeable ping under load. Maybe back off the timing just a hair to loose it. Run a couple of tanks and work out your mileage. Now run some premium (or what ever you call it down there) and again advance the timing until slight ping and back it off. Run a few tanks and work out your mileage. Now, does the mileage increase per gallon pay for the increased cost of the higher octane fuel per gallon? Say you get 28 MPG with regular at $3.60 a gallon... that's 280 miles per 10 gallon tank You get 32 MPG with premium at $3.80... that's 320 miles per 10 gallon tank You go 40 miles further but it only costs you $2.00 more. 2 Quote Link to comment
maredlin1@hotmail.com Posted March 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Great information (and you're right, I always get an answer from Ratsun) p.s. Crow doesn't taste very good. I have a couple of annoying questions to some. Everything will be new. Cylinder head was milled 10 thousanth, do I need cam tower shims? Do I put the cam sprocket at the number one position or the number two with the 280z pistons. And as far as pistons go, I found original dealer pistons for around $65. each. They are probably the best out there, but I'm willing to settle for second, third, or what ever is a good piston at a reasonanable price. One more, what rings should I use (I know stock was chrome, but you about need to have a perfect cylinder for them to seat) I have read moly rings (don't know if they mean chrome moly or just moly). I've also read Hastings makes good rings. Thanks for your time. 1 Quote Link to comment
maredlin1@hotmail.com Posted March 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Sorry, but I have more information. This might make a difference. I live over a mile high, (also in elevation 5,400 ft) Colorado That's a joke son I'm quoting Fog Horn Leg Horn. 1 Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Hastings makes sprayed chrome rings as well as cast rings. Cast rings seat quickly and will last a long time, but chrome rings will last a really long time. Cast rings are easier to snap both on install and from detonation. Chrome rings don't require anything special as far as the hone in the bore goes. If you're having a shop hone the block then they will know what to do. If you're honing it yourself, use a ball hone, lubricate it with WD40 (both in the bore and on the hone), use an electric drill (battery powered or plug in) set on the mid speed setting and for every one second count you should go down and up the bore two times (count "one one thousand"). ie - one one = down and up, thou sand = down and up. Run the hone in the bore five or ten total strokes. Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 make a good daily driver? a stock L 20 with a weber 32/36. cheap and EZ!!!!!!!!!!!!! forget the rest get more power just bolting a 38/38weber on there than getting bigger piston ect just to put a 32/36 on there. just my opinion Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 AKA the point of diminishing returns. Stock is super easy to maintain and reliable. When building it up more and more goes into it and less and less is gained. The first 10 HP costs $150, the next 10 hp $200 more, the next 10 hp $500.... Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Man you guys are getting old. Where's your zest for life? I say build the motor. Build it the way you described or a completely different motor, or even an engine swap. I've got one word for you guys...Fahrvergnügen Quote Link to comment
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