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Dylan Berichon

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Greetings all!

 

I've taken a break from attempting to replace the steering and suspension pieces on my '80 720 long bed.  I've hit a snag trying to get the upper ball joint off the drivers side.

 

The ball joint is removed from the upper control arm, but I can't break it free from the wheel hub.  I've got the bolt off, and I'm using a proper ball joint removal fork tool, but no matter how hard I wrench on it, the ball joint won't budge.

 

I've soaked it with P'blast, put a torch on the thing, beat on it with a big hammer, used a lot of colourful language, but nothing is working.

 

If you have any ideas I'd love to hear them.  Am I forgetting something or...?

 

Thanks as always.

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Forks never have worked for me... and just tear boots and get grease everywhere, no thank you.

 

Big hammer, wail on the knuckle itself and not the ball joint as hard as possible. I usually leave the ball joint connected to the control arms though. Leave the nut partially thread on. Push down on the knuckle, and hit right next to where the ball joint goes into the knuckle. 

 

 

If all else fails and it wont come off. Sawsall the ball joint itself off from the taper portion stuck in the knuckle. Turn the knuckle over on a vise or something, and wail on the stud, should come out in 1-2 blows.

 

I couldn't get my centerlink off of my pitman arm on my 510, so I removed my steering box, and one blow knocked it off.

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Its normal. Its not rust or corrosion (though it may contribute). It is a taper fit.

 

Use a 12 or 16 lb sledge

* Remove the cotter pin and nut

* Turn the wheel so you can swing the hammer straight towards the end of knuckle arm

* Use a pickle fork

* Don't be afraid. One good blow will separate the tie-rod end from the knuckle arm

 

Never failed to take on off dozens of cars. Yes, it usually cuts the dust shield. So keep it lubed after that, or get a new dust cup.

 

You can also borrow a ball joint/tie rod end remover from O'Reilly or Autozone. That won't hurt the seal.

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Again, knowing a few mechanics, they dont use pickle forks either.

 

4lb is all I have ever needed. Never a fork. Have replaced everything on the front of my wagon. Have also worked on dozens of trucks.

 

 

Your problem is something is absorbing your blows. You need to stop it. Like take a floor jack and shove the knuckle up, then try and angle your blows a bit downwards while hitting the knuckle.

 

Hit like this:

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I don't like pickle forks either. 

 

Like pictured, there should be tension against the joint to get it to pop. 

 

 

 

Since this is all off the car now-real tools will be needed to ease the job. 

 

http://www.amazon.com/Front-Service-Separator-Pitman-Puller/dp/B00SKNZPVI/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1426991445&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=front+end+tool+lit

 

^ The tool pictured on the right is my go-to for most annoying steering components

GL.. 

 

Get the picture to show up on your phone and go rent THAT tool or kit from a parts store. AutoZone or O'Reilly's rents them around my place. 

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Hi all!

 

Thanks for the helpful suggestions!  I've given up for the day after making about zero progress on the whole project.

 

The good news is that I'm replacing EVERYTHING up front in regards to suspension and steering (with the exception of the upper control arms since I couldn't track any new ones down), so if I tear any old rubber it won't really matter too much at the end of the day.

 

I'll keep you all posted if I make any progress.

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Hi all!

 

Thanks for the helpful suggestions!  I've given up for the day after making about zero progress on the whole project.

 

The good news is that I'm replacing EVERYTHING up front in regards to suspension and steering (with the exception of the upper control arms since I couldn't track any new ones down), so if I tear any old rubber it won't really matter too much at the end of the day.

 

I'll keep you all posted if I make any progress.

 

 

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http://www.harborfreight.com/3-4-quarter-inch-forged-ball-joint-separator-99849.html

 

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I went and picked this tool up from Harbor Freight and you were correct, it works very well!

 

The first ball joint I popped with it wasn't still connected to the control arm.  Big mistake!  When it "popped" free, it went FLYING across the garage I'm using and narrowly missed hitting me in the face.  It hit the ceiling before taking rest across the room.  Lesson learned!

 

I used this tool on every ball joint (control arm and tie rods) except for the lower control arm ball joint (because the tool isn't quite bit enough).  I was able to get those free eventually with use of another tool.

 

Now comes the fun task of putting everything back together and packing it with grease!

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I went and picked this tool up from Harbor Freight and you were correct, it works very well!

 

The first ball joint I popped with it wasn't still connected to the control arm.  Big mistake!  When it "popped" free, it went FLYING across the garage I'm using and narrowly missed hitting me in the face.  It hit the ceiling before taking rest across the room.  Lesson learned!

 

I used this tool on every ball joint (control arm and tie rods) except for the lower control arm ball joint (because the tool isn't quite bit enough).  I was able to get those free eventually with use of another tool.

 

Now comes the fun task of putting everything back together and packing it with grease!

 

 

I'm glad it worked out for you. Beats a fucking pickle fork any day of the week.

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