welp bought a 83 zx tranny but lookin like i got a pre 80's, verification of my sadness please...

[jrock4224]

so i bought (from well known ratsuner for parting out and selling stuff to other mebers off here..) a tall over drive zx tranny late 80's fs5w71b i believe ... it came wrapped in bags never looked just took word and just went to ID it to make sure i was ontop of my game and it looks like i have a pre 80's tranny ....sigh .. fuck me running...welp looks like slush box is not coming out anytime soon .. fuuuucccckkkkk

 

 

speedo cog bolt at twelve oclock and short shift ears ........fuck fuck fuck ... and now photobucket is not loading my pics hold on 

 

 

 

 

[jrock4224]

 

as described low ears and twelve oclock speedo cog ... pre 80's 

 

not what i desired and thought i was getting which was 81-83 .745 od tranny with 6oclock position and tall shifter ears....fuccccccckkkkkkkk i guess i soulda opened the bag and verified it when it was dropped off and i paid for it ... maybe i should loolk and see if my nardi wheel was had engraved inthe parking lot before it was dropped off too 

[datzenmike]

It could be from a zx..... just a first year. ('79) I have one. It was put in my 620 when that one quit, and just recently put in my 710. It's one tough sob. Only the '80-'83 have the two tallest overdrives.

 

Send it back.

 

How's the flue commin'?

[jrock4224]

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByCvxnHNk90SYzc4N2E1MWEtMzg0MC00YTE4LTkxZGQtM2RjODA5ODA1YjU1&usp=drive_web&pli=1&hl=en&tid=0ByCvxnHNk90SMzIxZWIwYWYtYzljNy00ZGU2LWI3ODctYzRjMmE0MGY3NTA1#list

[jrock4224]

so its is pre 80 isnt it mike ?  

[jrock4224]

FFFFUUUCCCCKKKKKKKKKK

[bananahamuck]

Stupid Yahoo geocites links are all broken now..  There was this great side by side comparison with photos.. 

 

But no more

[jrock4224]

dime quarterly has it .. i just chucked this tranny across the shop its not what i was buying .... fuck fuck fuck fuck its pre 80..... while useful to someone not me as i wanted the 81-83 and thought and was told what i was getting..fuck .... 

[datzenmike]

I copied it about 8 years ago....

 

 

 

There is also a 'reverse check sleeve' on the other side. An ingenious little device that makes it impossible to hit reverse when down shifting from 5th.

 

 

 

NMCA? Nissan Motor Car (of) Australia

 

 

 

dime quarterly has it .. i just chucked this tranny across the shop its not what i was buying .... fuck fuck fuck fuck its pre 80..... while useful to someone not me as i wanted the 81-83 and thought and was told what i was getting..fuck ....

 

May not have known what it was, may have been told that by someone else, it could have been swapped in years ago, maybe he thought all 280sx's had the tall OD.

[jrock4224]

frank just sent me the pic of his tranny as well as hans . they both are different them mine.... .. i been bamboozled i guess i should opened the bag and looked at what i was getting instead of trusting this person .. although i have trusted this person inthe past ... i guess now i will pck it up off the shop floor and take it back to tenino to its rightful owner....not happy .... i spent good money on this expecting something and got another .. i guess i shoulda opened the bag and checked ......fucking fuck .... i even verifiied the year of the car ... jesus chrst ratsun poke me inthe fucking eye 

[jrock4224]

I copied it about 8 years ago....

 

 

 

There is also a 'reverse check sleeve' on the other side. An ingenious little device that makes it impossible to hit reverse when down shifting from 5th.

 

 

 

NMCA? Nissan Motor Car (of) Australia

 

 

 

 

May not have known what it was, may have been told that by someone else, it could have been swapped in years ago, maybe he thought all 280sx's had the tall OD.

 

 

 the pics to verify

[TENDRIL]

maybe he didnt know ?

[jrock4224]

oh im just mad, not necessarily at him, but not for verifying my parts myself and just trusting him since we have done things before and its kinda had rough spots but im trusting... meah i guess i gotta swallow the "it was a 83.... i figured that is what it was then part.... "    i shoulda veried the part i bought .just puts a wrench in my four door project cause now i fdont have the tranny i thought i did ... .

 

fuckkkkkk, anyone wanna buy a pre 80s five speed .. accepting offers...prolly not gonna get what i paid for it thats for sure

[jrock4224]

and just so we are clear my fucks are directed at myself .. i dont think i was intentionally  fucked by anyone but circumstance... it just sucks i shoulda checked first and verified it was waht i wanted and needed.. sad part i had a chance to buy another one and turned it down ... by now i should know to buy anything and everything datsun i need.. i will have  use for it one day ... we verified the car was a 83 so at somepoint it was a different tranny ... just irritated i have everything for this tranny install but the tranny now ... 

[jrock4224]

 

 

 

 

May not have known what it was, may have been told that by someone else, it could have been swapped in years ago, maybe he thought all 280sx's had the tall OD.

 

 

this is what i assumed ... i guess i just trusted the car was what it was ... its my fault ... its my duty to check the parts im buying ... 

[jrock4224]

WTB 81-83 280zx tranny ... cash or trade for pre 80's 5sp tranny ... lol sigh 

[Flatline]

Sorry for my stupidity, but is the only issue here the overdrive size? Im about to buy a 79 ZX trans so id like to know for sure if it'll work with the L16 and my 510

 

ninja edit: Just read around and got the jist, Sorry for your trouble. Id probably buy this if you weren't on the exact opposite side of the US.

[datzenmike]

Sorry for my stupidity, but is the only issue here the overdrive size? Im about to buy a 79 ZX trans so id like to know for sure if it'll work with the L16 and my 510

 

ninja edit: Just read around and got the jist, Sorry for your trouble. Id probably buy this if you weren't on the exact opposite side of the US.

An L series transmission will fit any other L series 4 or 6 cylinder, not that you'd want to. So, yes a '79 280zx 5 speed will bolt up and work on an L16. Keep and use the release bearing collar that is now on your L16 4 speed, replace the bearing with a new one. The zx 5 speed will be about 5.5" longer so the mount will need mods and the driveshaft shortened by this amount. If you have a wagon a sedan driveshaft will work on this 5 speed swap. If you have a sedan have it shortened to 37 3/8".

 

Sorry jrock trying to sell this for you. :lol:

[jrock4224]

thanks mike we kinda are on the same page 

[flatcat19]

Maybe said member will cut you some of the money back since you were given what you weren't sold. 

 

 

 

 

Shitty. 

 

I went to Seattle last year to buy a 5 speed. Spent a lot of time and too much money to get it. 

Split the case when I got home...Chunks everywhere. Pissed. Nothing back from guy. 

[datzenmike]

There are two other L series transmissions that would fit the description above... the '80 2wd 720 5 speed and the '80-'84 810/Maxima. The 720 can be easily spotted because it has a neutral and top gear switch as well as the reverse, the Maxima would be almost identical to the zx with only a reverse lamp switch. 

 

To be sure place in 5th and turn the input shaft ONE turn. The 280zx output spline will turn 1 1/4 turns. That's once around and to 3:00 o'clock. All other 5 speeds will only turn to about 1:30.

[Doctor510]

I don't know why you have your nickers in a bunch.  I have run both in a 510 and I prefer the earlier one.  It has more "grunt"

in the lower gears AND you have a good 5th gear.  IMHO

[datzenmike]

There are three ratios available with the 'widest' being spread between a 3.592 first and the 1 to 1 forth. The 'mid' range has a 3.321 first and the 'close' is the zx box with a 3.062 first. 

 

The 'wide' has the most grunt on take off but the largest RPM drop on shifts. First is so low that is is only useful if starting from a stop. It's used primarily on trucks. Overdrive is about 16%

 

The 'mid' is a good all round gear for everything. Overdrive 5th is about 12%

 

The 'close' ratio (used only on the '80 and up non turbo zx) has least take off grunt, so good for use on larger displacement, higher torque engines. More useful on the track or where there are few stops and starts and first is high enough that it can be used for tight corners. All gear shifts have less RPM drop between shifts keeping the engine up closer to the power band. The 25% overdrive is only good for highway cruise.

 

Forth gear is the exact same on all three transmissions.

[jrock4224]

I don't know why you have your nickers in a bunch.  I have run both in a 510 and I prefer the earlier one.  It has more "grunt"

in the lower gears AND you have a good 5th gear.  IMHO

 

 

well cause i want a 280zx tranny and now i have a glorified 620 tranny ... its not his fault we both verified the car was a 83 .... we both were under the impression it was what it was .. neither of us checked i did yesterday .. i have almost everything to swap itin to my auto tragic car .... and while im not doing it tomorrow or the next day i am sooner then lateer.. we have talked .. we are trying to work it out .. i was pretty freaking irritated yesterday .. but like i said its not with out fault of my own ...... hes looking for the correct tranny and has someone that may want this tranny ,,, it just sucks and i know i am responsible as well 

[datzenmike]

Continue with the swap, why not? Get it running and if you really feel the need, keep looking and find another. The heavy lifting will be done and you can swap it in later, in a morning. I'm willing to bet you find the mid ratio just fine.