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L20B build, Flat Tops & Head Choices?


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Hello all,

 

   I was trying to decipher the engine section and it's still confusing. If anyone could give me a real good break down, I would very much appreciate to words of advice. So here's the idea:

 

1980 L20B with 86mm flat top Z pistons from Datsun Llc.

Stock crank and rods.

Cannon intake with twin 40mm DCOE carbs.

Matchbox dizzy

280ZX 5-speed

 

Head choices:

A87 open, stock cam

U67 open, stock cam

W58 open, stock cam

 

Biggest questions are; do I need to shim the cam towers, use and bigger head gasket or any other special work? I've read about detonation and dieseling, but is this a factor that I can get around?

Thanks in advance for the help!

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Hello all,

 

   I was trying to decipher the engine section and it's still confusing. If anyone could give me a real good break down, I would very much appreciate to words of advice. So here's the idea:

 

1980 L20B with 86mm flat top Z pistons from Datsun Llc.

Stock crank and rods.

Cannon intake with twin 40mm DCOE carbs.

Matchbox dizzy

280ZX 5-speed

 

Head choices:

A87 open, stock cam

U67 open, stock cam

W58 open, stock cam

 

Biggest questions are; do I need to shim the cam towers, use and bigger head gasket or any other special work? I've read about detonation and dieseling, but is this a factor that I can get around?

Thanks in advance for the help!

 

IMO, the U67 is the best starting point, the  W53 would be 2nd.

 

You will need cam tower shims ONLY if the head has been milled more than .015".  Stock HG is fine, use a good one, I have used FelPro for more than 25 yrs.  Pinging and dieseling is a function of TOTAL timing and throttle plate setting.  Be sure to get your "dizzy" mechanical advance system curved appropriately:  12* BTDC at idle, 34-36* BTDC total @ 2,800 RPM's, do not hook up the vacuum advance canister, there will not be any ported vacuum available with the Weber's anyway.

 

 

 

I done mean to shoot down your project, but you read too much, the motor will tell you what you need to know. Books are good for basic settings.

I never met a Datsun that could read yet.

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Hello all,

 

   I was trying to decipher the engine section and it's still confusing. If anyone could give me a real good break down, I would very much appreciate to words of advice. So here's the idea:

 

1980 L20B with 86mm flat top Z pistons from Datsun Llc.

Stock crank and rods.

Cannon intake with twin 40mm DCOE carbs.

Matchbox dizzy

280ZX 5-speed

 

Head choices:

A87 open, stock cam

U67 open, stock cam

W58 open, stock cam

 

Biggest questions are; do I need to shim the cam towers, use and bigger head gasket or any other special work? I've read about detonation and dieseling, but is this a factor that I can get around?

Thanks in advance for the help!

 

 

 

L20B with flattops and any 45.2cc open chamber head will give 10.11 compression.

 

Pinging should be correctable with higher octane gas and with higher compression the burn time will be shorter. Shorter burn means the ignition timing must be retarded from the stock 12 degrees... perhaps 10 or even less. Trial and error.  In addition the combustion chambers can be ground away to unshroud the valves making the volume larger and dropping the compression slightly. There's lots of room for dropping the compression here and better higher RPM breathing is the gain. Roughly speaking, place your gasket of choice on the head and scribe circles around the combustion chamber. Grind away material around the arc of each valve and down into the combustion chamber in a smooth curve towards the valve seat.   

 

Cam tower shims and thicker gaskets are only needed to correct for excessive chain slack from milling the head surface down.

 

The U67 and W58 are about equal, the A87 may have smaler valves and ports. I would rum the U67 as it has the square exhaust ports that match your L16 cast iron header.

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Thank you all for the advice here. Doctor 510, I do read a lot, but just trying to make sure I go in the right direction without back tracking. DatzunMike, I will look into un shrouding the valves to get the compression down as it seems to be the right answer and gives better airflow in the end! I have both headers, so the W58 may get the port and polish treatment, remove the liners and leave it on based that it was already a matched set with the engine.

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