bananahamuck Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Ive been looking for a Chevelle for awhile. I he doesn't bite, and you still want to trade or sell, hit me up! Look around here a bit and see what these cars are about before you get out the sawzall. ^^ That is wise words young grasshopper. Cool man i have no emotional ties to it,, so if your ever in the area of Olympia let me know and i would be happy to show it to you. Quote Link to comment
olderdat620 Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Don't want to offend------ been there tried that----- Young- Dumb and full of ideas (don't go like that) Just build a L20 it will haul ass. 2 cents worth ----- out 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 If I decide to go with a vg30 of sorts what is a recommended tranny to go with? Preferably an FS5W71C 2wd from a Hardbody VG30E or the '87 and up S12. Get them both together from the same vehicle. They will fit without modding the 510 body. Yes there are the 300zx transmissions but they are TOO heavy duty and too big. Quote Link to comment
DatsunKid15 Posted March 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Just build a L20 it will haul ass. Easiest would be l20b, more balls and can be upgraded fairly easily. I have an l20b with zx 5spd and sss carbs, its quite fun and with some carefully picked junkyard parts and some cash it can be Damn fun. L20b is a great swap. So it sounds like an L20 is a fun, well documented build. :thumbup: Ill put some research into it. Maybe a stroker build in the future. B) 1 Quote Link to comment
DatsunKid15 Posted March 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 I will also be researching VG builds, they sound a bit more up my alley than a four cylinder. Anyways thanks to everyone for your comments and suggestions! ~Hunter Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Hey Datsunkid, don't let these guys discourage you. If you have a mechanical and fabriation background, a pile of cash and a full summer to build it, go for it. Just please finish it. I hate to see a good car or truck go to waste because somebody had a plasma cutter and wanted to use it. 1 Quote Link to comment
dr.feltersnatch Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Thats the main key, a big pile of cash. For any of the swaps (except l20) you will need lots of cash. Like several thousand not just a couple hundred. I remember reading the average cost for an sr swap was $4500. 1 Quote Link to comment
Pacific coast Datsun Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 L MOTOR...been saying this for years ! 2 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Thats the main key, a big pile of cash. For any of the swaps (except l20) you will need lots of cash. Like several thousand not just a couple hundred. I remember reading the average cost for an sr swap was $4500. Pretty much anything above an L or LZ is going to involve conversion to EFI. (high pressure fuel pump, ECU, wiring, sensors, alternator up grade and more) Also a specific transmission as the L series won't fit, so include trans mount and driveshaft mods. Larger rad, engine mount and oil pan clearance, exhaust, throttle cable swap. Front springs to hold this up, front and back. Now it's imperative that the brakes be well upgraded! At least 280zx struts on the front and a larger master cylinder.. While strictly speaking the H-160 will 'work' with any engine choice, the more power made, the more you should look at an R-180 and an LSD. The same with tires and rims. This is why I recommend driving this car for a while and upgrade as you learn. Brakes, suspension, differential, wheels and tires can be purpose built towards doubling or tripling the power later. It will all be needed no matter what engine you build up for it. 3 Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Thats the main key, a big pile of cash. For any of the swaps (except l20) you will need lots of cash. Like several thousand not just a couple hundred. I remember reading the average cost for an sr swap was $4500. $4500 is a good number, but that's probably assuming that most of the work is done by yourself, maybe paying to have a custom exhaust built. I don't think I've ever seen a quality engine swap that hasn't run into the thousands of dollars. If you're paying someone to do it for you, it can be excruciating. I did a motor swap for a guy a couple years ago that cost about $25K to complete. 1 Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Pretty much anything above an L or LZ is going to involve conversion to EFI. (high pressure fuel pump, ECU, wiring, sensors, alternator up grade and more) Also a specific transmission as the L series won't fit, so include trans mount and driveshaft mods. Larger rad, engine mount and oil pan clearance, exhaust, throttle cable swap. Front springs to hold this up, front and back. Now it's imperative that the brakes be well upgraded! At least 280zx struts on the front and a larger master cylinder.. While strictly speaking the H-160 will 'work' with any engine choice, the more power made, the more you should look at an R-180 and an LSD. The same with tires and rims. This is why I recommend driving this car for a while and upgrade as you learn. Brakes, suspension, differential, wheels and tires can be purpose built towards doubling or tripling the power later. It will all be needed no matter what engine you build up for it. This is the best advice. Get it running and driving and get to know it before you pull the trigger on major repairs or expensive mods. Quote Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 These cars with a healthy L and tuned carbs are quick fun cars. Fine tune the brakes and handling for best results. Period correct race motors look beautiful inside that engine bay too. 1 Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Absolutely. Nothing looks better in a 510 engine bay then a dual carbed L motor. Bang for the buck is starting to lean in favor of an engine swap though. HP L motors are getting expensive to build. Quote Link to comment
shacks510 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 510s don't even need a whole lot of power to be fast. A 110whp L20b would get going pretty quick. Remember, we're talking about a 2200lb car here. 1 Quote Link to comment
DanielC Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 I think my 521 weighs 2240, with me in it. A 510 is not built to haul an additional ton. Quote Link to comment
CEL3 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 454 would twist it all to hell! Ruin the car driving wise. But just keep reading man. I've been into cars for a little over 4 years I'm 19. Fabrication sucks, lol but I'm getting ready to do a swap on my 620. If you think you know all the details on it, keep reading you'll find something else. I did a ls2 swap on my 67 camaro... what a job Quote Link to comment
Big_E-Dog Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 you could come to the rare dark side and go vg30et. youll prolly need to find a complete running parts 300zx w/ some accident damage.......shouldnt be toooo hard to find lol Quote Link to comment
TENDRIL Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 after its running and you understand the 510. than start looking into swaps and hang around here, watch build threads. in fact there's an dyno event happening soon check that thread out in a week or two. and look at the numbers put out, im sure there will be L's 16-20, lz's, ka's, sr's and turbo cars 1 Quote Link to comment
That4doorKiD Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Best swap.. 4 u A-12 Quote Link to comment
Datfabio Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Oh man, I remember being your age, no license, no money and dreaming of a 2 door 510 with an rb26dett in it. Now im 19, have a 510 and a donor 300zx with a vg30e sitting in my backyard but reality is hitting me...its not gonna happen anytime soon, there is just too much involved in performing a swap. My advice is...just enjoy the car as much as you can with the stock drive train and learn from it, carbs are awesome! Im learning a lot and being the only kid in the block that knows what a choke is feels pretty good. I know its hard to believe but slow is actually fun in the right car and the 510 is just perfect. After being able to drive it properly and if you have another form of transportation then start sourcing parts for an engine swap, and nope is not as easy as it seems. Best of luck getting the 510, I say go for it! 2 Quote Link to comment
DatsunKid15 Posted March 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Ok so after a week or so of thinking and research, I have come to a decision. I am going for a l20b turbo EFI. I have been researching a bunch but haven't found any somewhat step-by-step builds or guides. Even using the search function. :thumbup: I have started reading How to modify your Nissan and Datsun OHC engine aswell. If anyone has any experience with turboing a l20b, knows any good links/resources, or guides I would greatly appreciate your help and input! Quote Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 You won't find info about it on the web. It has all been hidden. Why? Because it is that bad of an idea. Quote Link to comment
TENDRIL Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 one of the rat pack guys, had one said he ran about 8 lbs and got about 140-150 hp imo i almost went that route, but way to much work for a timebomb Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 You can get that NA with a KA swap. Way better bottom torque too. 1 Quote Link to comment
TENDRIL Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 monies could be spent better else where, with better, more reliable results, but im not trying to detour you, as i do really like the turbo l20b, "idea" , but knowing what i know now, i would turbo a ka or get a ca18det if you want a turbo Quote Link to comment
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