Jump to content

1978 b210 not charging


Zfighter76

Recommended Posts

so I recently bought a 1978 b210, seller said just needs alternator. I replaced the alternator because I was stupid and believed him, and same problem, reads 12 volts when running with lights off, and it shuts off when I unplug the battery.  the charge light works so that's not it, all fuses and connections are good, continuity to all wires.  the thing I am most uncertain of is the alternator itself. it looks very similar to the hitachi unit that was on the car but one thing that I read is that 78+ b210s had internally regulated alternators.  this makes sense because I found no voltage regulator or open connections for one anywhere.  I just don't know if it had the wrong alternator in it when I bought it too, looks old but who knows how long it was not charging for.  also the production date reads 77' but its registered as a 78'.  any help? all wiring is original but good, checked continuity of all the wires ("bat" to battery, "e" to earth), and the battery is also new.  wasn't sure how to test the "t" plug on the alternator though. thanks! 

Link to comment
  • Replies 10
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

The build dates for the '78 model year starts in August '77 I believe. Look on the door jam tag or consult the emission sticker on the under side of the hood.

 

If a '78 you will need an internally regulated alternator.

 

That said....

Look on or very near the positive battery post for the fusible links. They are about 4" long with plastic connectors at each end so they can be removed and replaced. There are maybe 3 or 4 of them likely Green and /or Black possibly a Red one too. They are designed to melt like a fuse but resist catching fire. One may appear melted or burnt and crispy. Check them for continuity with a test lamp.

Link to comment

If you have the Hitachi alternator, it is common for it to be so old the brushes are worn out.

 

his happened to my B210, I ordered a brush kit from Rock Auto, easy to take apart and put the new brushes in, works great.

 

If you do this, also order starter brushes, both sets are like $4.00 to $6.00 each set.

  • Like 1
Link to comment

spotteddog he replaced the alt. so why buy brushes and he tearing apart a alt?

 

have alt tested at Napa or where ever.

If good then ck for conncttion to the T plug and make sure one of the leads gets 12volts to energize the alternator. Or the fuse box to ck the alternaotr. If alt is not energized it wont charge.

Had this happen with my 521. I found out my fdash elelctrical plug was loose and the 12volt never went to the alternator. Why it routed the 12volt to the dash I forgot( I think dash light as it didnt work and popped the fuse)

Link to comment

thanks guys, I  believe the problem is that I have an externally regulated alternator on a car that should have an internally regulated one then.  i tested continuity through the fusible links and they are fine. the door jamb does say 77' but again there is no external regulator to speak of and no connector for one. i will return to oreillys and return the external reg alt and head over to napa since it seems like they know what theyre doing a bit better.  hopefully they can get me the correct alternator. ill post my findings after, thanks again!

Link to comment

good news! went back to oreillys and returned the alternator i just bough, turns out they had a remanufactured hitachi ir alternator in stock, so i swapped and it charges perfectly now, though i did have to go back again to get a different belt to fit.  took her for a spin around the building at my work and she drives like a dream. before it idled a bit high and felt like it had a vaccum leak, i believe because the alternator was just free spinning, now that it has some load it runs completely different.  thanks for the help guys!

Link to comment

Usually the auto choke relay requires alternator output in order to be on. Without the auto choke relay on there is no power to the choke heater and the choke can't warm up properly and stays partly on. If the choke is on usually the fast idle cam is engaged too.

 

You may notice a healthy increase in mileage now as the choke will be shutting off.

Link to comment

cool that's great info.  I have yet to drive the car more than around the parking lot once or twice at my work because the car was in an accident and has no radiator or lights. im getting to fixing that now that its running good.  ill start a build thread , ive been taking a ton of oics on this one haha

Link to comment

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.