Hrvat9 Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 Hey all, there's someone near me that is parting out a 280z. Datsun 1977 280z parting out on Kijiji http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-auto-parts-tires-engine-engine-parts-Datsun-1977-280z-parting-out-W0QQAdIdZ1018769169 My question is can I use / upgrade any of these parts on my 78 620? Also , was it standard for the 78s to have front disc brakes or was it optional ? My 78 has drums all around Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 If you have drum brakes on the front it can't be a '78, simple as that. Check your build date on the door jam tag. August '77 and on were '78 model year trucks. All '78s had first year disc brakes, EI (electronic ignition) distributors, internally regulated alternators, ball joint steering, W-58 heads, 13/16 master cylinder change. http://toronto.kijij...AdIdZ1018769169 nothing here that would fit a 620. Quote Link to comment
Hrvat9 Posted September 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 Weird :/ , I'll take a look when I get home. The previous owner had it registered as a 78 ! Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 Sometimes the selling date is used, well it did happen back then. Beware, the 620 looked the same from late '72 through '79. Wouldn't be a stretch to put a '79 door and engine room tag on a '73 and call it a '79. No harm to you unless stolen. I see no problem continuing on if this is the case. Selling it knowing it's wrong .... might be problem later. Quote Link to comment
Hrvat9 Posted September 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Here's pics of mostly all the tags / numbers I found on truck. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Door and engine tags can easily be swapped to a '77 body that had drum brakes. The emission sticker even says the '77 model year. The vehicle number beginning Jan 1st '78 was 310,001 to June '78 (the end of the '78 model year) was 375,000 so you number 314,996 fits perfectly If you really want to know, wire brush the rust off the top of the passenger frame top just forward of the engine mount and behind the alternator. The matching vehicle number is stamped there. An August '76 to July '77 ('77 model year run will have a vehicle number of between 158,751 to 260,000. Hell, it might be even older than that. Post a picture of your engine bay showing the rad support. The '78 620 had front disc brakes not drum. Quote Link to comment
Hrvat9 Posted September 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Thanks datzenmike , Will do as soon as I get home ! Really want to figure this out Quote Link to comment
Hrvat9 Posted September 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Here are my findings : 188822 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 HL620 makes it a '75 or newer, drum brakes makes it a '77 or older. August '76 to August '77 frame numbers.... 156762 to 260000 188822... is right in the middle. So looks like a '77 frame and '78 body? or registration. I wouldn't worry unless the frame is stolen. It could possibly be taken back? Quote Link to comment
Hrvat9 Posted November 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 HL620 makes it a '75 or newer, drum brakes makes it a '77 or older. August '76 to August '77 frame numbers.... 156762 to 260000 188822... is right in the middle. So looks like a '77 frame and '78 body? or registration. I wouldn't worry unless the frame is stolen. It could possibly be taken back? Does it make a difference if it's "khl620" or "hl620"? In the picture the "k" is cut off by the shadow. So to recap, the number 188822 makes this a 77' frame? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Does it make a difference if it's "khl620" or "hl620"? In the picture the "k" is cut off by the shadow. KHL 620 makes it a King Cab long wheelbase frame. HL 620 is a regular cab and can be long or short wheelbaswe. So to recap, the number 188822 makes this a 77' frame? The number 188822 falls within the '77 model year production. The frame is the governing criteria for what the truck is and what year. You have ownership of a '78 truck but if pressed you cannot show a matching frame number. This is illegal and illegal to sell knowingly or otherwise. I would say that it is very unlikely anyone will ask you to prove what you have but you could get into hot water if you sell it. What if the frame was from a stolen truck????? If you are keeping it there is a risk. Can you run the frame number and see if there is a problem with it. Forget Carfax it's pre '82. Quote Link to comment
abbylind Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Iffin I was a gamblin man... I would say you have a 77 that someone put on a 78 cab. Could be it was damaged badly and it was easier to change out the cab. Nowdays it would have been retitled as a salvage title...Back then there werent salvage titles...A lot of totalled vehicles were repaired and sold without the new owner knowing of the salvage condition. Quote Link to comment
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