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I understand the apprehension of a government run single payer system, especially this fucking corrupt POS government. That being said, I don't trust my health in the hands of a rigged for profit system that charges $45 for an aspirin and has three pricing structures. One for whole price customers. One for insurance companies that is printed as the "final" price on the bill that you then pay an out of pocket % of. But then the bill is negotiated down behind your back so the insurance company pays less and you pay more. And finally a flat rate fee that the federal and state government pays. That my friends is fucking BULL SHIT!!!

 

As a healthcare provider I've done Medi-Cal paperwork and it is the most fucked up insane prohibitive bureaucratic time suck you can imagine. On average I was spending 30 minutes on paperwork for every 50 minute session with a client and getting half of the going rate. The state might as well say "Please don't see Medi-Cal patients". Our system is broken. We are able to afford a $56 billion increase in military spending to "defend" our people but we are letting them die because we can't afford healthcare? 

 

World Health Organization's Ranking of the World’s Health Systems. We just managed to beat out Slovenia Cuba and Brunei. What a fucking joke.

1 France

2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
37 USA
38 Slovenia
39 Cuba
40 Brunei

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Pretty sure the best care in the world happens in the US. when you honestly average in all citizens and non citizens.. world organisations give you their facts

 

Not sure what you mean by "average in all citizens and non citizens", citizen or not, this is still our system. Granted this rating doesn't paint a flattering picture of our healthcare system, but trust them or not, the W.H.O. used very respectable methods to objectively analyse a massive amount of data to create this ranking. see for yourself. 

http://www.who.int/healthinfo/paper30.pdf

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Meant others some holes in our system and that shows in our rank.

 

As stupid as it seems to free style /market a health system because of pre existing and catastrophic injury, it seems fixing it is f****** everybody.

 

 

 

 

I respect your guys experience with the system, but deep in the details seems convoluted. Yes I can grasp the methodology of the wto paper. But they def have an agenda, I sorry just my feel reading gov math

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Once again no help whatsoever. But, I guess, to see a problem, you must first accept that there is a problem. Change won't be simple... or easy. Socialist medicine? a rose by any other name ...  just call it something else like 'collective bargaining medicine'.  . 

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One of the fist things we need to do in the U.S. is get the Illegal Immigrant situation under control. That is one of the biggest high cost factors currently in the California Healthcare system, if we even have one. 

 

They use the E.R. like an Urgent Care and don't pay shit. So, why is that Aspirin $45 bucks? Because you are paying for all the people who didn't pay for it and those things are not free. As usual, just like the tax payer situation, we end up paying for someone else's shit in the end. 

 

Everyone keeps dancing around it with Walls and Deportations that never happen. The fuckers are not leaving under their own free will. So make them pay for their shit! 

 

Whoever figures out this riddle will rule the world. So yes, it is not happening. 

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My wife works for a family practice doing billing. She has seen many times that Obamacare wont pay for certain things or specialists that traditional insurances do and it can put you at the bottom of a clinics list to be seen because the clinic doesn't want to deal with it. Some places that can stay as busy as they want ( meaning the goods ones) without taking Obamacare won't see you if you have it.

 

 

Heard an Interview with a back surgeon from Canada saying he had a year and a half waiting list. The interviewer said maybe he should become a back surgeon and get rich. The surgeon said it doesn't work that way because the government will only pay for so many back surgeries in the country per month so the number of people needing them was irrelevant.

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Ontario Province Says Criticism Of Muslim Prayer In Public Schools ‘Racist’

 

The Ontario provincial government sanctioned special religious status for Muslim students in the public school system after the Canadian House of Commons voted in favor of an “Islamophobia” motion Thursday that critics say could have long-term consequences on freedom of speech.

 

The Peel District School Board, responsible for a large swath of schools in the suburbs of Toronto, allows Muslim students to hold regular Friday prayer session on school time and on school property. Parents have objected to this practice because they say Christians and Jews are not allowed to hold religious meetings.

 

The school prayers have become an issue because local imams are invited to pray and speak to the students in Arabic, and the school board cannot provide assurances that the students are not being subjected to radical Islamic indoctrination.

 

Last week a video surfaced on YouTube that featured an imam speaking to a Montreal mosque, in which he urged the congregation “to kill the Jew behind you.”

 

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/25/ontario-province-says-criticism-of-muslim-prayer-in-public-schools-racist/#ixzz4cMN7uZnF

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 Richest country in the world can't look after it's citizens . . . . . . .

 

 

I think they give too much money to other nations in the name of altruism. A shame indeed that they can't take care of problems at home first.

 

And too much is spent trying to force democracy on every corner of the globe.

 

 

 

It needs to be torn down completely and re-thought.

 

I'm all for that. Clean it out from the Oval office all the way to the mayor in the small town nearby. Start fresh. No more career politicians. Take care of home first, and if there is anything leftover then maybe help out our fine neighbours to the North.

 

The rest of the world can put their hands to work helping themselves instead of reaching into the big pockets of Uncle Sam.

 

FTW.

 

 

People are getting fat and rich on other people's troubles.

 

 

Capitalism.

 

Its a bitch.

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Most stuff I don't have a problem with. We have lots of Sikh communities and if they can't wear them they can't join. Policing ethnic communities is very difficult and best if they are represented in the police force that deals with them.

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