racerx Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Adam lanza, James Holmes, Eric Cruz, Aaron ybarra, Myron may..they were on meds...and many more. 1 Link to comment
john510 Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 What is "or similar?" You think 3 years in age will make any difference? An 18 year old who wants to kill everyone because he was bullied and has a chip on his shoulder, or a 21 year old who was bullied, lives in his mom's basement still and has a chip on his shoulder? An 18 year old would have 3 years to cool off,maybe finish high school and get over being bullied.I see in a previous post you say it wouldn't matter.How will we ever know if it's not tried ? as far as being 18 goes,most 18 year olds are NOT adults yet.The law might say they are but mentally they haven't matured.I realize there are exceptions.This is one of those things i pointed out many pages ago about the pro-gun people just not willing to compromise on anything.At 18 you can't buy a beer but you can buy a gun.Makes a lot of sense huh ? Link to comment
Dolomite Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 The three years isn’t going to do fuckall. When I was 18, I was less aggressive than I was at 21...by far. In my less than humble opinion, if you are legally responsible for yourself and old enough to die for your country, you’re old enough to buy a rifle. 1 Link to comment
datzenmike Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Making sweeping assumptions and conclusions about everyone else's mental state based on your own is rather foolish. I don’t know about canadia, but in the home of bald eagles and big blocks we have the right to refuse service to anyone. Maybe someone will refuse to sell you a gun.... Link to comment
racerx Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 /\..even if you have mental health issues and on meds that have serious side effects? Or combined with violent background like dv,road rage, killing of animals and taking pleasure in harming others or harming self. Link to comment
Dolomite Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Making sweeping assumptions and conclusions about everyone else's mental state based on your own is rather foolish. Maybe someone will refuse to sell you a gun.... Shit Mike, at least I based my “sweeping assumptions and conclusions” on something tangible. The right to refuse service is a case by case basis. Yes, a gunshop could legally decline my business. It wouldn’t be legal to post discriminatory practices, in this case age based. In the same vein, the baker that refused service did so on a case by case basis, they didn’t post “no homos”...that’s why that case is potentially dangerous for the future. Imagine a bar not being able to refuse to serve a drunk, or tell a loudmouth to leave. Case by case needs protection, discrimination needs abolishment. Link to comment
racerx Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 The three years isn’t going to do fuckall. When I was 18, I was less aggressive than I was at 21...by far. In my less than humble opinion, if you are legally responsible for yourself and old enough to die for your country, you’re old enough to buy a rifle....the military weeds out the unfit and conducts background check,this was done when I joined. Plus their training in operating a gun is excellent. 1 Link to comment
paradime Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 I posted a list back on pg. 1325 post 26486 of the meds children were on when they killed people or committed suicide. It is horribly long. Wow, pretty damning list Fetch. Zoloft, Prozac, Paxil, and Celexa are all SSRIs and although they have warnings for higher risk of adolescent suicide, as far as I know none of them have specific warnings about acting out violent behavior on others. Not at all surprised though. drug companies are down right F'n evil when it comes to dodging and covering up shit. 2 Link to comment
racerx Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Read somewhere that certain add meds can cause aggressive behaviors, tic, anxiety, hallucinations, flat affect. Scary shit. Link to comment
a.d._510_n_ok Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Commitment to Eating Three Meals a Day Is ‘Racist’ Senior editor at Mother Jones wants you to know that you should stop eating three meals a day for reasons including the fact that it is “racist.” Yes — she actually uses the word “racist:” “Dogmatic adherence to mealtimes is anti-science, racist, and might actually be making you sick,” proclaims the subhead to Kiera Butler’s Wednesday article, titled “Why You Should Stop Eating Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner.” Here is her reasoning: When the Europeans came over to the United States, they ate three meals a day whereas the Native Americans ate in a less restricted fashion — a practice which Butler claims the Europeans considered to be unrefined. Butler offered excerpts of an email interview with Abigail Carroll, author of the book Three Squares: The Invention of the American Meal, as proof of this point. “The eating schedule of the native tribes was less rigid … the Europeans took this as ‘evidence that natives were uncivilized,’ Carroll explained to me in an email,” Butler wrote. She said that Carroll told her that the Europeans believed that “civilized people ate properly and boundaried their eating, thus differentiating themselves from the animal kingdom, where grazing is the norm.” https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/03/commitment-eating-three-meals-day-racist-katherine-timpf/ Link to comment
Fetch Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Wow, pretty damning list Fetch. Zoloft, Prozac, Paxil, and Celexa are all SSRIs and although they have warnings for higher risk of adolescent suicide, as far as I know none of them have specific warnings about acting out violent behavior on others. Not at all surprised though. drug companies are down right F'n evil when it comes to dodging and covering up shit. Yes, it is and of course the blame falls on the gun, Total BS. The articles are a couple of posts later. If you watch the evening news (puke puke) the drugs they are pushing, some side effects include "violent behavior". And they are giving this shit to children. Listen to them. Link to comment
racerx Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 I for one ain't blaming the gun. They don't have a conscience but we need to limit access to them, weapons, knives, especially if the person has a violent tendency, or on meds that can cause one to hallucinate or get so anxious that they don't care anymore.There are some meds you are not supposed if you are going to drive a car. Link to comment
Draker Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 I for one ain't blaming the gun. They don't have a conscience but we need to limit access to them, weapons, knives, especially if the person has a violent tendency, or on meds that can cause one to hallucinate or get so anxious that they don't care anymore.There are some meds you are not supposed if you are going to drive a car. Cruz was reported to the FBI twice.. and they didn't follow through. You know, the same FBI that does the background checks. Not to mention the 40+ interactions with local police. 2 Link to comment
racerx Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Yes, that's why enforcenent, engagement specially seeing or sensing red flags. needs to be better and accessibility needs to be limited. Link to comment
Draker Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Yes, that's why enforcenent, engagement specially seeing or sensing red flags. needs to be better and accessibility needs to be limited. If you do the first, the second happens as a matter of current process. Not sure how you could sense an issue any easier than by having TWO reports to the FBI about the same subject. One from a family member of the subject. Link to comment
racerx Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Then whoever got those reports should be reprimanded and/or trained better in coordinating and taking action. Serious missteps in all directions occurred. Btw, ive said this numerous times how the military failed to report vets who had a violent tendencies... 1 Link to comment
Draker Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Then whoever got those reports should be reprimanded and/or trained better in coordinating and taking action. Serious missteps in all directions occurred. Btw, ive said this numerous times how the military failed to report vets who had a violent tendencies... Agreed on both! Link to comment
racerx Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Devin P. Kelly..the military failed to report him. Link to comment
125 CSL Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/copycat-threats-soar-600-fla-school-shooting-massacre-article-1.3861325 School shooting copycat threats skyrocket to over 600 after Florida massacre More than 600 copycat school shooting threats have been made across the country — just two weeks after a gunman killed 17 people and wounded over a dozen at a Florida high school last month, data shows. Texas had the most threats with 55 reports, Ohio had 47, California received 37, Florida had 35 and 32 reports were made in Pennsylvania, USA Today reported citing data from the Educator's School Safety Network. Brought the point up a few times. The media and protestors made this. Link to comment
VFR800 Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 if you are legally responsible for yourself and old enough to die for your country, you’re old enough to buy a rifle. And buy booze none of this 21 shit. 1 Link to comment
q-tip Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Legal gun owners have 200 million firearms and 12 trillion rounds of ammunition, if we were really a problem you would know. 2 Link to comment
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