paradime Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 CNN is total and complete trash. Top to bottom.. inside and out. Trash. They've been caught so many times.. even in a PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE!!! So what corporate news conglomerate would you recommend? Link to comment
tr8er Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Why can't you guys just admit that those guns ARE assault style weapons ? Semantics is his way of deflecting the issue. Makes him feel right and in his mind shows the speaker is wrong about everything they say. Assault: a physical attack Weapon: a thing designed or used for inflicting bodily harm or physical damage Yet, if you put those two words together and it doesn't necessitate select-fire capabilities, you better go back to grade school. Fuck, I'm surprised they can even form sounds with their lack of basic understanding... 2 Link to comment
125 CSL Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 /\...so what does this tell u about having armed staff at school. Another thing is will they be armed w a pea shooter vs an a semi auto assault rifle? Not really, what I heard is these officers were county police so depending on issued locally plus training he/she would be superior shooter with a higher caliber wep. Link to comment
paradime Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Uhhh, because they aren’t, and insisting they are is disingenuous and ignorant. Sometimes being disingenuous and ignorant is bliss. 1 Link to comment
mainer311 Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Semantics is his way of deflecting the issue. Makes him feel right and in his mind shows the speaker is wrong about everything they say. Assault: a physical attack Weapon: a thing designed or used for inflicting bodily harm or physical damage So, by that definition, all rifles are assault rifles. Nice try, junior. The monicker “assault rifle” was coined by the mainstream media to encompass all black scary looking rifles. Just because you can put attachments on picatinny rails doesn’t make it any more powerful than any other semi-auto rifle that accepts a magazine. You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still just a pig. The fact that people in here still refer to it as an assault rifle just shows that they have no basic understanding of firearms. Nothing worse than someone arguing about something they know nothing about. 1 Link to comment
Dolomite Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 So, by that definition, all rifles are assault rifles. Nice try, junior. The monicker “assault rifle” was coined by the mainstream media to encompass all black scary looking rifles. Just because you can put attachments on picatinny rails doesn’t make it any more powerful than any other semi-auto rifle that accepts a magazine. You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still just a pig. The fact that people in here still refer to it as an assault rifle just shows that they have no basic understanding of firearms. Nothing worse than someone arguing about something they know nothing about. Ex-fucking-actly! It would be like if I said I’m now calling trucks urban assault vehicles because they both have wheels, and anyone that points out the difference is just deflecting and they’re wrong because I said so. Link to comment
john510 Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 insisting they aren't is disingenuous and ignorant. fixed Link to comment
125 CSL Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 What a tool Justin Trudeau is ridiculed by Indians for his 'fake, tacky and annoying' wardrobe of traditional outfits - and finally dons a suit after criticismJustin Trudeau is taking part in an eight-day visit to India with his family For three days, the Canadian Prime Minister was pictured in traditional outfits While the clothing drew praise early on, the tide of opinion soon turned on him Perhaps sensing the mood change, Trudeau donned a suit on Thursday Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5421779/Justin-Trudeau-ridiculed-Indians-fake-outfits.html#ixzz57tUAqb00 Link to comment
Draker Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 So what corporate news conglomerate would you recommend? I've always said independent journalists and independent investigative journalists do the best work. Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 What a tool Justin Trudeau is ridiculed by Indians for his 'fake, tacky and annoying' wardrobe of traditional outfits - and finally dons a suit after criticism Justin Trudeau is taking part in an eight-day visit to India with his family For three days, the Canadian Prime Minister was pictured in traditional outfits While the clothing drew praise early on, the tide of opinion soon turned on him Perhaps sensing the mood change, Trudeau donned a suit on Thursday Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5421779/Justin-Trudeau-ridiculed-Indians-fake-outfits.html#ixzz57tUAqb00 Tool. Maybe he should stay there. 1 Link to comment
tr8er Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 it's dis-crediting a whole speaker based on their use of a term that has no less that three definitions that are widely accepted. a person is not stupid because they use different terminology. I personally don't disagree with your definition, but I'm able see past that and hear their argument. This is the difference. I'll listen to a friend tell me about how much they love my Datsun and the sound of the motor, though we know the engine is what makes the sound they love. I won't stop listening and consider them unworthy of an opinion Link to comment
paradime Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Ex-fucking-actly! It would be like if I said I’m now calling trucks urban assault vehicles because they both have wheels, and anyone that points out the difference is just deflecting and they’re wrong because I said so. Ex-fucking-actly what we don't need, a bunch of unless trivia masquerading as wisdom. Link to comment
Dolomite Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 fixed assault rifle NOUN A lightweight rifle developed from the sub-machine gun, which may be set to fire automatically or semi-automatically. That’s copy and pasted straight from oxford, the most respected dictionary there is. 2 Link to comment
Dolomite Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Assault rifle - Wikipedia An assault rifle is a selective-fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine. Assault rifles were first used during World War II. Hell, even the dipshits at wiki have it right. 2 Link to comment
paradime Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 assault rifle NOUN A lightweight rifle developed from the sub-machine gun, which may be set to fire automatically or semi-automatically. That’s copy and pasted straight from oxford, the most respected dictionary there is. Your point has been driven home dude, but what's the point of it? 1 Link to comment
Dolomite Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Definition of assault rifle in US English: assault rifle NOUN A rapid-fire, magazine-fed automatic rifle designed for infantry use. And oxfords US English definition. 1 Link to comment
john510 Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 So, by that definition, all rifles are assault rifles. Nice try, junior. The monicker “assault rifle” was coined by the mainstream media to encompass all black scary looking rifles. Just because you can put attachments on picatinny rails doesn’t make it any more powerful than any other semi-auto rifle that accepts a magazine. You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still just a pig. The fact that people in here still refer to it as an assault rifle just shows that they have no basic understanding of firearms. Nothing worse than someone arguing about something they know nothing about. The term "assault rifle" was started by Adolph Hitler,so don't pin it solely on the media.The phrase has been around a long time.No,not all rifles are assault rifles.You know that. Link to comment
Dolomite Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Your point has been driven home dude, but what's the point of it?The false term is used for the sole purpose of fear mongering. It’s a non starter to try to begin a debate or conversation with a blatant lie. No pro 2A individual is even going to listen to the first sentence after hearing assault rifle when it’s a sporting carbine. If there’s to be any legitimate conversation, both sides need to be honest and speak without rhetoric. Edit: picture this...a guy shows up at a Datsun meet that you’re at. He proceeds to talk about his “all original numbers matching car” with “original libres on it”. You look at the car, it has appliance mesh knock offs and a rotary swap. You now know dude has no damn clue what he’s talking about. Are you going to be willing to converse about the future of Datsun culture with him? My guess is an emphatic hell no. That’s how anti 2A with their lack of knowledge comes off. 3 Link to comment
racerx Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Your point has been driven home dude, but what's the point of it?...his point is that he showing his superiority because apparently most of us have been using the wrong lingo, therefore, we don't have the right the debate the subject matter. Get it now. 2 Link to comment
paradime Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 The false term is used for the sole purpose of fear mongering. It’s a non starter to try to begin a debate or conversation with a blatant lie. No pro 2A individual is even going to listen to the first sentence after hearing assault rifle when it’s a sporting carbine. If there’s to be any legitimate conversation, both sides need to be honest and speak without rhetoric. Edit: picture this...a guy shows up at a Datsun meet that you’re at. He proceeds to talk about his “all original numbers matching car” with “original libres on it”. You look at the car, it has appliance mesh knock offs and a rotary swap. You now know dude has no damn clue what he’s talking about. Are you going to be willing to converse about the future of Datsun culture with him? My guess is an emphatic hell no. That’s how anti 2A with their lack of knowledge comes off. Well put, Thanks. 1 Link to comment
125 CSL Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/22/cop-assigned-to-florida-school-never-went-in-amid-shooting-sheriff-says.html Deputy assigned to Florida school 'never went in' during shooting, sheriff says The school resource deputy who was on patrol at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, on Feb. 14 resigned Thursday after video surveillance showed he never entered the school, even though he "clearly" knew there was a shooting taking place, officials said. Deputy Scot Peterson, of the Broward County Sheriff’s Office, was stationed on the school’s campus when Nikolas Cruz opened fire with an AR-15 rifle, leaving 17 people dead and others wounded. Sheriff Scott Israel during a press conference Thursday said video showed Peterson arriving at the west side of the building where the shooting took place. Peterson, Israel said, took up a position but "never went in." Peterson, according to the sheriff, "was absolutely on campus through this entire event." The deputy was armed and in uniform during the shooting, but never entered the building despite "clearly" knowing a shooting was happening, Israel said. The sheriff said he believes Peterson remained outside of the building for roughly four minutes, while the shooting in total lasted around six minutes. Israel said the officer never fired his weapon. Link to comment
Draker Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 2015 stats Injuries via firearms: 36,252 Suicide via firearms: 22,018 Legal/Unintentional/undetermined: 1,255 -------------------------------------- Assaults from firearms (not suicide): 12,979 Now we have a solid number to work with.. 12,979 where someone killed someone else illegally. Source: CDC Deaths by weapon 2015 (assaults): (Yes I realize FBI and CDC have a discrepancy, hard to find all the data in one source.. ask them why they are different.) Total firearms: 9,616 Handguns: 6,447 Rifles: 252 Shotguns: 269 Other guns: 171 Firearms, type not stated: 2,477 Source: FBI Could not find gang related death statistics for 2015.. however as reported by the CDC in 2011 and 2012 80% of gun deaths were related to gang violence. Lets apply those figures... Totals deaths by firearms minus gang related deaths: Total firearms:1,923 Handguns: 1,289 Rifles: 50 Shotguns: 54 Other guns: 34 Firearms, type not stated: 495 If you want to take the CDC numbers and adjust them +26% to match the FBI individual stats.. Total firearms: 2,596 Handguns: 1,625 Rifles: 64 Shotguns: 68 Other guns: 43 Firearms, type not stated: 624 So do we want to ban these 'assault rifles' because they are murder machines... or because they look scary? 2 Link to comment
john510 Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 The false term is used for the sole purpose of fear mongering. It’s a non starter to try to begin a debate or conversation with a blatant lie. No pro 2A individual is even going to listen to the first sentence after hearing assault rifle when it’s a sporting carbine. If there’s to be any legitimate conversation, both sides need to be honest and speak without rhetoric. Edit: picture this...a guy shows up at a Datsun meet that you’re at. He proceeds to talk about his “all original numbers matching car” with “original libres on it”. You look at the car, it has appliance mesh knock offs and a rotary swap. You now know dude has no damn clue what he’s talking about. Are you going to be willing to converse about the future of Datsun culture with him? My guess is an emphatic hell no. That’s how anti 2A with their lack of knowledge comes off. So if we used the term "sporting carbine" instead of "assault rifle" with these shootings we'd be good ? Link to comment
Draker Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 So do we want to ban these 'assault rifles' because they are murder machines... or because they look scary? Looking at those stats.... shouldn't we make handguns illegal? Link to comment
Draker Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Which one of these is more dangerous? 1 Link to comment
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