john510 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 More kids need to rat each other out when somebody makes threats or talks of violence.Unfortunately they don't.I just read a story about a Grandmother that turned in her Grandson for plotting a shooting.He was arrested the day before this Florida shooting happened. 3 Link to comment
paradime Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 True that^ I have a 16 year old son, and I know sometimes it's had to distinguish the BS braggadocio of a teen age boy. This Florida kid along with many others clearly stepped over a line, and I think with education and awareness, as a society we can do much better in calling this shit out before it goes down.. Link to comment
Dguy210 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 This is just my opinion but Paradime and D210guy should be banned for throwing around $20.00 words on a $5.00 forum. :thumbup: Aye, meeb be dinking dat ya kan go fook yaself. An meeb will keep usin'z big wurdz as meeb wan.;) 2 Link to comment
paradime Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Chickenshit missed opportunity to show leadership, or fear of being overshadowed by the media frenzy. Either way, I hate spineless politicians. Romney Postpones Senate Race Announcement After School Shooting https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-15/romney-postpones-senate-race-announcement-after-school-shooting Link to comment
Dguy210 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Chickenshit missed opportunity to show leadership, or fear of being overshadowed by the media frenzy. Either way, I hate spineless politicians. Romney Postpones Senate Race Announcement After School Shooting https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-15/romney-postpones-senate-race-announcement-after-school-shooting I agree with you on this. I personally dislike Romney quite a bit. 2 Link to comment
Jesse C. Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Chickenshit missed opportunity to show leadership, or fear of being overshadowed by the media frenzy. Either way, I hate spineless politicians. Romney Postpones Senate Race Announcement After School Shooting https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-15/romney-postpones-senate-race-announcement-after-school-shooting Yup, a total spineless turd. Link to comment
tr8er Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 I think we may have found common ground in this thread after all 5 Link to comment
125 CSL Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Before I point it out, do you all notice what is glaringly wrong with this? http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/02/florida-school-shooter-linked-to-white-supremacist-group.html Florida school shooting suspect linked to white supremacist group Link to comment
john510 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Before I point it out, do you all notice what is glaringly wrong with this? http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/02/florida-school-shooter-linked-to-white-supremacist-group.html Florida school shooting suspect linked to white supremacist group A guy with a Hispanic last name was allowed to participate in some White supremacist activity ? i see the media is now running hard with the fact he was with a White supremacist group while not pointing out his race. Link to comment
tr8er Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 He was adopted. Last name adoptive parents. Edit: Not to suggest he isn't Hispanic. I don't have that information. Link to comment
tr8er Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Before I point it out, do you all notice what is glaringly wrong with this? http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/02/florida-school-shooter-linked-to-white-supremacist-group.html Florida school shooting suspect linked to white supremacist group They say ROF in the article when it should be R.O.F. ? Link to comment
125 CSL Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 No militia is going to claim a school shooter as part of their group. Everyone should have seen that from the start, It would bring on more heat/legal action then anyone would want to deal with, from federal down to local PD. On top of that it is the leader of the group giving out this information. So, fake news set up? Or government agent running a "white supremacist militia". Government agent would be on the federal level, so the fed has it hands in terrorism? Opens the window a little more on a lot of already suspect activity. Go a little further down the road and who would authorize this kind of activity? Who stands to gain from these events? Link to comment
john510 Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 I agree no militia wants any part of shooting up a school.I would think they're just as sickened about it as anybody. Link to comment
tr8er Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Yes, but he was a known member at public events. Denying would be the worse move. Speaking to the media is odd though. Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 No militia is going to claim a school shooter as part of their group. Everyone should have seen that from the start, It would bring on more heat/legal action then anyone would want to deal with, from federal down to local PD. On top of that it is the leader of the group giving out this information. So, fake news set up? Or government agent running a "white supremacist militia". Government agent would be on the federal level, so the fed has it hands in terrorism? Opens the window a little more on a lot of already suspect activity. Go a little further down the road and who would authorize this kind of activity? Who stands to gain from these events? An predominately black, Muslim or Jewish school they might. Link to comment
Jesse C. Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Yes, but he was a known member at public events. Denying would be the worse move. Speaking to the media is odd though. Any publicity..... The guy claimed they gave him the rifle, when records show he bought the rifle legally from a Gun Shop. Once again, left leaning media eager to paint him as a Republican White Supremacist before anything has been established as fact by law enforcement. The guys is a piece of shit regardless of his political leanings, If he even had any, and if he was a white supremacist, would he have not targeted minorities? Again, a rush to paint him as a Supremacist threw that out the window. And I wish all politicians would just shut the fuck up until thing are sorted out instead of getting on top of those dead bodies to talk shit. And I am talking about both parties! 4 Link to comment
Dolomite Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Dafuq??? Im ready for the flat earthers and the naysayers to start screaming fake news, however, fuck me ! (statement and not an offer), 18th shooting this year and peeps aren’t getting a little concerned ???????????????? And the fucking maggot was on the radar; sheesh! http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/mass-shooting-suspect-was-a-known-security-threat-prior-to-horrible-act/news-story/1f844489426810754383e689cffc8d30 That’s precisely what I’m concerned about. On the radar of both fbi and local sheriff and no follow up. Family tried to commit him but it’s damn near impossible to get done against someones will. We have a mental health problem that is being passed off as a gun problem. Even the left has admitted no laws would have stopped it. It’s time to rethink the mental health system. If your family knows you’re a danger, they need to have channels to put your ass in a care facility. There would need to be safeguards against abuse of the system but something needs to be done. The bullshit about 2A repeal is just a talking point, it would literally end up in a 2nd civil war. I feel like the politicians regardless of party don’t want a comprehensive plan to address mental health because they are in big pharmas pocket, they don’t care that the drugs people are put on are part of the problem. 2 Link to comment
tr8er Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Pharma drugs are a HUGE problem and can alter our brains so they don't feel remorse, regret, empathy, etc. these people are getting "help". While I don't agree with medicating the fuck out of everyone the allopathic model prevails and that is where we are. If people who are on those drugs that have a history of exhibiting aggressive, dissociative behavior, were prohibited from owning/possessing weapons with potential to carry out this kind of assault, id be glad. An overwhelming majority of these killers were on prescribed Benzos. And they all had guns. This combination has proven to be tragic. Why the fuck would we not introduce legislation prohibiting guns for people on this class of drug? Or eliminate the drug, but good luck with that one. We already prohibit gun ownership for anyone who has a medical marijuana card... Link to comment
125 CSL Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 and here we have it,.. http://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2018/02/15/florida-school-shooting-suspect-nikolas-cruz-member-white-nationalist-militia-tallahassee-leader-say/341751002/ No ties between militia and Florida high school shooter Local law enforcement sources have not found a connection between accused Parkland school shooter Nikolas Cruz and a Tallahassee-based paramilitary group. Leon County law enforcement sources told the Tallahassee Democrat that they could not find information linking Cruz, 19, to the Republic of Florida Militia, as claimed by the group’s self-proclaimed leader Jordan Jereb. His comments to the Anti-Defamation League and The Associated Press set off a media firestorm Thursday at about midday that Cruz was connected to the alt-right, white nationalist group. 1 Link to comment
tr8er Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 From that link: “It may seem odd that Jereb would bring attention to his group by claiming a connection to Cruz, but Jereb has always been somewhat of a publicity seeker. In 2014, in fact, he wrote us to complain that we had not already listed ROF as a hate group. In April 2017, Michael Tubbs, the leader of the Florida chapter of the League of the South, a well-known hate group, wrote that Jereb ‘never misses a photo op’ and called him ‘a nut job who should be avoided.’” There's a nut to keep an eye on. Link to comment
tr8er Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Yes, but he was a known member at public events. Denying would be the worse move. Speaking to the media is odd though. Alleged it seems... Link to comment
Dguy210 Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 No militia is going to claim a school shooter as part of their group. Everyone should have seen that from the start, It would bring on more heat/legal action then anyone would want to deal with, from federal down to local PD. On top of that it is the leader of the group giving out this information. So, fake news set up? Or government agent running a "white supremacist militia". Government agent would be on the federal level, so the fed has it hands in terrorism? Opens the window a little more on a lot of already suspect activity. Go a little further down the road and who would authorize this kind of activity? Who stands to gain from these events? Yes, but he was a known member at public events. Denying would be the worse move. Speaking to the media is odd though. Any publicity..... The guy claimed they gave him the rifle, when records show he bought the rifle legally from a Gun Shop. Once again, left leaning media eager to paint him as a Republican White Supremacist before anything has been established as fact by law enforcement. The guys is a piece of shit regardless of his political leanings, If he even had any, and if he was a white supremacist, would he have not targeted minorities? Again, a rush to paint him as a Supremacist threw that out the window. And I wish all politicians would just shut the fuck up until thing are sorted out instead of getting on top of those dead bodies to talk shit. And I am talking about both parties! Alleged it seems... Link to comment
Dguy210 Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Dafuq??? Im ready for the flat earthers and the naysayers to start screaming fake news, however, fuck me ! (statement and not an offer), 18th shooting this year and peeps aren’t getting a little concerned ???????????????? And the fucking maggot was on the radar; sheesh! http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/mass-shooting-suspect-was-a-known-security-threat-prior-to-horrible-act/news-story/1f844489426810754383e689cffc8d30 "18th shooting this year" yeah that turns out to be "Fake News". How surprising! But I agree, the shooter was sick in the head, and the authorities had been notified and did nothing productive. Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Pharma drugs are a HUGE problem and can alter our brains so they don't feel remorse, regret, empathy, etc. these people are getting "help". While I don't agree with medicating the fuck out of everyone the allopathic model prevails and that is where we are. If people who are on those drugs that have a history of exhibiting aggressive, dissociative behavior, were prohibited from owning/possessing weapons with potential to carry out this kind of assault, id be glad. An overwhelming majority of these killers were on prescribed Benzos. And they all had guns. This combination has proven to be tragic. Why the fuck would we not introduce legislation prohibiting guns for people on this class of drug? Or eliminate the drug, but good luck with that one. We already prohibit gun ownership for anyone who has a medical marijuana card... Put them in concentration camps with like minded. Link to comment
racerx Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Just too easy to get guns. Read that in Florida its easier to get an ar15 than a handgun. Even if a background check occurred he would have pass. Combination of feeling isolated and victimized while having an ar15, oh yeh, perfect ingredients for a nut job to shoot up his old school that he felt wronged him. This debate will go on for awhile until something else pops up that intrigues the public, maybe Trumpcheeto tweeting something crazy or north Korea or the kardashians. Then this mass shooting will be in the back burner until another nut job shoots again. Murica!!!! Link to comment
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