Cuz Merica

[paradime]

Hey re re's, he was also acquitted of involuntary manslaughter. He was given a free pass.

 

Seriously? I thought they only tried him for 2nd degree murder...

 

 

Anti-gun, pro-PETA, pro-radical feminist Cali seats a liberal jury in the gun violence murder trial of woman killed by a man whose stated intent for discharging his stolen firearm into a crowded family recreation area was the murder of one of the tree-huggers' most beloved fur-babies, the seal.

 

After they absolve the defendant of all his heinous acts of politically incorrect sins - gun crime, all violence against women and the attempted slaughter of a helpless sea creature - San Francisco smugly turns to the camera and says, "Fuck you, Drumpf! We abandoned our core beliefs just to flip you the middle finger!".

 

"Why do you care!?! You're in Oklahoma!"

say, didn't a college professor who bashed a protestor in the head from behind with a bike lock as he was exercising his free speech rights on the liberal Berkeley campus have a court date today?

 

Oklahoma troll bait. Here fishy fishy fish... 

[thisismatt]

Seriously? I thought they only tried him for 2nd degree murder...

 

 

 

Oklahoma troll bait. Here fishy fishy fish...

The jury of six women and six men acquitted the 45-year-old Garcia Zarate of murder in the first and second degrees, and the alternate charge of involuntary manslaughter.

 

He was convicted on the lesser charge of possession of a firearm by a convicted felon.

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/30/567625700/jury-in-san-francisco-finds-accused-killer-of-kate-steinle-not-guilty-of-murder

[paradime]

Thanks Matt.

 

Found this on Wikipedia:

 

On July 28, prosecutors filed an additional charge against Zarate: being a felon in possession of a firearm.[29] On September 4, San Francisco Superior Court Judge Brendan Conroy stated that there was enough evidence to try Zarate. Initially charged with first-degree murder, Zarate was eventually tried for second-degree murder. If found guilty of the charges of second-degree murder, being a felon in possession of a firearm, and an enhancement of using a firearm, Zarate could have faced life in prison without the possibility of parole. The jury also had the option of deciding if he was guilty of involuntary manslaughter.

 

The trial began October 23, 2017 

 

A key point of contention was the ease with which the weapon could have been fired accidentally. A supervising criminologist at the San Francisco Police Department crime lab testified that the gun was in excellent condition and would not have fired without someone pulling the trigger. The defense emphasized that the Sig Sauer pistol has no external safety mechanism to prevent accidental firing, and pointed to a record of even police trained in the use of Sig Sauer pistols having made accidental discharges. As examined by the criminologist, it was placed in single-action mode (where the hammer is cocked), rather than double-action mode (where a single pull of the trigger both cocks and releases the hammer). While it is typical for a gun that has been fired to be in single-action mode, a gun in single-action mode also requires less trigger pressure to fire. The defense argued that this made it more plausible that Zarate could have pulled the trigger accidentally while picking up or unwrapping the bundled gun. The BLM ranger testified that he always left the pistol in double-action mode, but that he typically loaded it in single-action mode, and couldn’t definitively say that he had returned it to double-action mode before it was stolen.

[heywier427]

Dude said he was using it to shoot at seals.

 

What the fuck is wrong with you dumb fuck pot smoking Californian hippie idiots!

 

A felon with a gun cause a death.  Period.  Fry him.

 

You dumb convoluted mother fuckers.

[thisismatt]

RIP Cal Fire engineer battling the Thomas fire :(

[datzenmike]

Try to keep up with the discussion. You don't get to fry someone for involuntary manslaughter.

[thisismatt]

Try to keep up with the discussion. You don't get to fry someone for involuntary manslaughter.

Who said you did?

[tr8er]

Fuck that, sea lions are just giant vermin, they're severely over populated and they decimate fish populations most critical being salmon. I say open up a hunting season on them, some population control would be good for the ecosystem.

I'd have never guessed.. Still shooting a gun at the water is not a good idea. But perhaps less apathy for sealions

[paradime]

Mike is right, but I can sympathize with heywier427's anger. The moronic Sanctuary City law in SF was why this drug addict convicted felon boarder jumping POS was on the street. The stupid ass federal agent who left his loaded unsecured weapon in his car is how he got the gun, and the SF DA who muddied up the trial by charging this turd with the full boat 1st or 2nd degree with zero evidence suggesting it was a premeditated murder, they all played their part. The last people I'm going to point a finger at is the Jury. The DA fucked this up a tree PERIOD. 

[john510]

What does the perpetrator have to do with it? The decision was correct enough. It's really hard to call it murder, look up the definition. I already commented on this. The best they could possibly do is manslaughter, careless use of a firearm, possibly possession of a firearm. Apparently the bullet traveled 60-80 feet ricocheting off the pavement. Pretty much the definition of an accident. In the face of such randomness how would it be less? Tragic though. You're angry that this person (asshole) was a felon, so that changes everything including the right to be innocent until proven guilty? This could have been done or happened to anyone. If a kid had done this you would be singing a vastly different tune. If Kate Steinle had been an illegal immigrant felon that was killed by a stray bullet, you wouldn't even give a shit. So again, how was this avoidable? Well she could have stayed home or not been such a perfect victim.

"What does the perpetrator have to do with it"  you can't be serious.I don't know Mike.I'll have to think on that.Oh got it,he fired a stolen gun in a public place when he shouldn't have ? just a guess. 

[datzenmike]

..and was convicted for this and now more. Punishment should reflect the crime. It shouldn't be based on the fact he was 'a piece of shit felon illegal immigrant' which is what many refer to as the perpetrator. The perpetrator has nothing to do with the decision by the jury, only his acts. Justice should be blind...

 

 
 

Dude said he was using it to shoot at seals.
 
What the fuck is wrong with you dumb fuck pot smoking Californian hippie idiots!
 
A felon with a gun cause a death.  Period.  Fry him.
 
You dumb convoluted mother fuckers.

Who said you did?

See above.
 
 

[Rjawm]

[Rjawm]

[datzenmike]

 .cbc-NET NEUTRALITY-

[Draker]

I'll admit I haven't followed net neutrality in depth. I know the repeal was an executive order, and not a law.

[a.d._510_n_ok]

Dude said he was using it to shoot at seals.

 

What the fuck is wrong with you dumb fuck pot smoking Californian hippie idiots!

 

A felon with a gun cause a death.  Period.  Fry him.

 

You dumb convoluted mother fuckers.

Well-said!

 

now lemmee translate that into libtard for the lefties:

 

who really killed Kate Steinle???

 

 

Man trusted to carry a gun (phallic symbol) cannot be trusted to secure the gun properly and it is stolen.

 

Other man finds gun and fails to turn it into the authorities. He fires the weapon into a crowd of people and kills a woman. He got off scott-free after he killed a woman, endangered children and wildlife and violated multiple city, county, state and federal firearms laws.

 

This man admitted to trying to kill innocent sea creatures with the gun. No charges of endangering wildlife are even brought against him because as a male apparently, shooting at animals in a public place is perfectly acceptable despite all the laws on the books against this very thing....?

 

Have you noticed that the identities of the jurors have not been released? Why? Because the jurors were most likely majority male.

 

As soon as the defense won the case the prosecutor metaphorically whipped his dick out to show Trump his was bigger by virtue of the fact that he'd freed a man who had murdered a woman, endangered children and wildlife as well as violated multiple city, county, state and federal firearms laws.

 

The murder of Kate Steinle was reduced to no more that a dick measuring contest by the City of San Francisco because women's lives mean shit when the toxic masculinity of the patriarchy can score political points. [/end libtard mode]

 

Now, consider the fact that whatever little justice the Kate Steinle receives will because Pussy Grabber in Chief Drumpfcheeto has a higher regard for the lives of women and less tolerance for gun crime, murder, wildlife endangerment than the City and the County of San Francisco and state of California combined.

 

Congrats, California! You've allowed political correctness to turn your state into Mississippi circa 1963! Your backwards local law enforcement let a murderer walk free to score a political point against what you consider an oppressive federal government that dares to call you out for shielding from just law a class of citizen you deem impervious to justice.

 

[Jesse C.]

Ok, enough politics and ugly shit

 

Cuz' Merica can also be good. Let's remember that this county also has lots of good and opportunity. 

 

Just saw this on the news and thought it was pretty cool. You views may differ. 

 

https://www.moregood.today/

[racerx]

Yep/\...negativity is contagious and bet there's more good than bad that happens in this world.

[q-tip]

I'd have never guessed.. Still shooting a gun at the water is not a good idea. But perhaps less apathy for sealions

Agreed, water is a bad backstop.

[datzenmike]

Well-said!

 

now lemmee translate that into libtard for the lefties:

 

who really killed Kate Steinle???

 

 

Man trusted to carry a gun (phallic symbol) cannot be trusted to secure the gun properly and it is stolen.

 

Other man finds gun and fails to turn it into the authorities. He fires the weapon into a crowd of people and kills a woman. He got off scott-free after he killed a woman, endangered children and wildlife and violated multiple city, county, state and federal firearms laws.

 

This man admitted to trying to kill innocent sea creatures with the gun. No charges of endangering wildlife are even brought against him because as a male apparently, shooting at animals in a public place is perfectly acceptable despite all the laws on the books against this very thing....?

 

Have you noticed that the identities of the jurors have not been released? Why? Because the jurors were most likely majority male.

 

As soon as the defense won the case the prosecutor metaphorically whipped his dick out to show Trump his was bigger by virtue of the fact that he'd freed a man who had murdered a woman, endangered children and wildlife as well as violated multiple city, county, state and federal firearms laws.

 

The murder of Kate Steinle was reduced to no more that a dick measuring contest by the City of San Francisco because women's lives mean shit when the toxic masculinity of the patriarchy can score political points. [/end libtard mode]

 

Now, consider the fact that whatever little justice the Kate Steinle receives will because Pussy Grabber in Chief Drumpfcheeto has a higher regard for the lives of women and less tolerance for gun crime, murder, wildlife endangerment than the City and the County of San Francisco and state of California combined.

 

Congrats, California! You've allowed political correctness to turn your state into Mississippi circa 1963! Your backwards local law enforcement let a murderer walk free to score a political point against what you consider an oppressive federal government that dares to call you out for shielding from just law a class of citizen you deem impervious to justice.

 

 

I'm pretty sure he didn't fire into a crowd.

He didn't get off Scott free.

Most likely male... doesn't make it so.

Kate Steinle was not murdered

 

 

 

 

Agreed, water is a bad backstop.

 

50 cal can only penetrate about 3 feet of water....

 

[a.d._510_n_ok]

we may have to agree to disagree, Mike :)

 

[heywier427]

 

 

 'a piece of shit felon illegal immigrant'

 

Lets break this down:

 

"a piece of shit"    was shooting at sea lions. More than likely, the person who stole the gun.

 

"felon"   pretty obvious he is a felon, unless, fake news?

 

"illegal immigrant"  it kinda really speaks for itself.  He was not born in america, he was in this country illegally.

 

 

 

Are you saying that people calling this person "a piece of shit felon illegal immigrant", is not a spot on description?

 

So what, he didnt mean to kill some one.  

 

He did an illegal act which resulted in a death.  In my opinion, much like a DUI.  Why not hold him responsible for his actions.

 

Who paid for his lawyer?

[datzenmike]

He was held responsible. He was charged with manslaughter. Involuntary manslaughter. If Kate Steinle had picked up this gun and it went off accidentally and killed this 'a piece of shit felon illegal immigrant' you wouldn't give a flying rusty fuck. We wouldn't even be talking. Check your anger and bias at the door. Until then.... ‘Culpae poenae par esto.’

[thisismatt]

At minimum he should have been found guilty of involuntary manslaughter, with enhancements for being illegal and a felon in possession.

[datzenmike]

Now you got it. Throw the proverbial book at him.