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Police Body Cameras Can Threaten Civil Rights of Black and Brown People, New Report Says

 

The vast majority of the nation’s biggest police departments allow officers to watch footage from body cameras whenever they want, including before they write their incident reports or make statements, said the report, which was released Tuesday by the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights.

 

“Unrestricted footage review places civil rights at risk and undermines the goals of transparency and accountability,” said Vanita Gupta, former head of the Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division and current head of the Leadership Conference, in the report’s introduction.

 

http://www.newsweek.com/police-body-camera-incident-report-memory-civil-rights-minority-711584

[tr8er]

Police Body Cameras Can Threaten Civil Rights of Black and Brown People, New Report Says

 

The vast majority of the nation’s biggest police departments allow officers to watch footage from body cameras whenever they want, including before they write their incident reports or make statements, said the report, which was released Tuesday by the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights.

 

“Unrestricted footage review places civil rights at risk and undermines the goals of transparency and accountability,” said Vanita Gupta, former head of the Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division and current head of the Leadership Conference, in the report’s introduction.

 

http://www.newsweek.com/police-body-camera-incident-report-memory-civil-rights-minority-711584

Why does the headline call out "black and brown people"?

 

The story, nor quotes go into skin color

[240zness]

Why do I remember the tweeden picture from years ago.. happened in '06

 

As soon as I heard Al franking was speaking about politics 20 years ago. I knew it was some bullshit coming..

[datzenmike]

An opinion is a judgement formed about something but not necessarily with facts or knowledge. Your opinion would be totally correct for you only, although someone else might agree with it. If you disagree you can't say it's wrong without endless arguments, but you could say you disagree with it and introduce facts unavailable to this person that might lead him to change his opinion. Even faced with an indisputable fact, the opinion holder may not change and hold his opinion to still be true. 

[q-tip]

 

An opinion is a judgement formed about something but not necessarily with facts or knowledge. Your opinion would be totally correct for you only, although someone else might agree with it. If you disagree you can't say it's wrong without endless arguments, but you could say you disagree with it and introduce facts unavailable to this person that might lead him to change his opinion. Even faced with an indisputable fact, the opinion holder may not change and hold his opinion to still be true.

 

Should have written that in first person mike.

[datzenmike]

Oh lord.....

 

99% of everything here is opinion.

[tr8er]

Oh lord.....

 

99% of everything here is opinion.

That though, was stated as fact.

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The Curious Case of the Black Male Escort Found Dead Inside a Wealthy Democratic Donor’s Home

 

On July 27, 2017, 26-year-old Gemmel Moore was found in the bathroom of a West Hollywood, Calif., apartment belonging to Ed Buck, 62. Moore was young, black and poor. Buck was white, wealthy and powerful.

 

That’s all we know.

 

Moore’s family is searching for answers. Buck has not spoken publicly about the incident. Police have not charged anyone with a crime, even though multiple reports have surfaced that Buck had a predilection for young, black men. Even after a number of young, black male sex workers have stepped forward with apparent photographic evidence that Buck was one of their clients. Even after each one of those men separately told the same story: Not only did Buck have a fetish for black men, but he was known in West Hollywood’s gay community as someone paying top dollar for the company of 20-something black escorts ...

 

But only after injecting them with drugs.

 

Moore’s roommate and best friend, Samuel Lloyd, alleges that Buck had an unhealthy obsession with Moore. “He went out there searching for other men that were struggling and on the streets and had no money ... men who had never experienced drugs before,” said Lloyd at an October 21 community meeting. “This is the kind of guys Ed Buck searched for.”

 

Lloyd added that Moore had grown afraid of Buck in the days before his death, saying that “Gemmel was scared of this man. He came and he laid in my arms and he was scared. Scared that this man was going to hurt him.”

 

https://www.theroot.com/the-curious-case-of-the-black-male-prostitute-found-dea-1820247720

[paradime]

You're insulted? Wow. How is that BS rhetoric? All I tried to point out is that those who are opposed to guns are never satisfied with what they take. They punish the law abiding owners for the sins of criminals. The cake analogy was probably presented better than mt Datsun analogy. I guess I could have added illustrations but I didn't want it to be insulting.

 

Convoluting Datsuns and guns to make your point here is insulting enough, but it comes off as simplistic and condescending like you're talking to children. It also makes the black or white assumption that if you seek any form of gun control to address gun violence, or even make efforts to enforce existing laws, than you are ignorant and in denial that the government is coming to take our guns. When the debate is defined in illogical terms like that, it has nowhere to go, and that suits gun nuts just fine. For many, the NRA has their ass puckered up so tight they're incapable of participating in rational conversation. 

 

Brother I own guns, as do most of my family and as a kid I was a member of the NRA. I don't believe guns are the issue, people are, but I can see this shit is out of control, and I'm not willing to pretend otherwise. I have no fucking clue what the answer is, but I know how we're handling it now ANTE WORKING, and I strongly believe we can do MUCH BETTER. All the problems of this country are at stale mate because of the inability of both extremes to compromise. It's become a Zero-Sum Game of win or lose rather than a Non-Sum Game capable of producing a win win outcome.

 

So let me make a counter point using Dats and guns. There's far less legislative control and regulation over my weapons that are designed to take life, than there is over my Datsun, designed for transportation. For instance, I have to register my Datsun every year, I had to pass a test to get, and maintain a license to operate it, attached to that license is a government database with my entire driving and legal record, my age, a photo of me, and my address, I have to operate my Datsun under very strict laws that are closely monitored by city and state police at all times. if I break these laws I'm fined and my ability to drive can be restricted or revoked and my Datsun imponded, I have to insure it to protect others around me, about a year ago I had to take a vision test that I could not pass, so I can't even drive my Datsun any more. Dude I can't see for shit, but no one gives a flying fart that a blind guy has guns? Something's wrong with that.

 

Now, how would you feel about guns having the same laws and regulations as Datsuns? 

[paradime]

That though, was stated as fact.

 

 

Opinions as well as "facts" are an internal construct of our individual subjective reality. 

[240zness]

Oh lord.....

 

99% of everything i post here is opinion.

;)

[240zness]

Opinions as well as "facts" are an internal construct of our individual subjective reality.

 

Witch also forms our reality

[racerx]

Or confirmation bias

[paradime]

People lose touch with subjectivity when they have their head stuck too far up their own reality.

 

Another cognitive logistical snake eating it's own tail

 

Lao Tzu 500 B.C.

 

The more you know, the less you understand. 

[datzenmike]

 

Now, how would you feel about guns having the same laws and regulations as Datsuns? 

 

 I would have said safer but now I'm not sure. Would mental cases (including whack jobs, fanatics and nuts) still have them? Criminals?

[Draker]

[Rjawm]

So let me make a counter point using Dats and guns. There's far less legislative control and regulation over my weapons that are designed to take life, than there is over my Datsun, designed for transportation. For instance, I have to register my Datsun every year, I had to pass a test to get, and maintain a license to operate it, attached to that license is a government database with my entire driving and legal record, my age, a photo of me, and my address, I have to operate my Datsun under very strict laws that are closely monitored by city and state police at all times. if I break these laws I'm fined and my ability to drive can be restricted or revoked and my Datsun imponded, I have to insure it to protect others around me, about a year ago I had to take a vision test that I could not pass, so I can't even drive my Datsun any more. Dude I can't see for shit, but no one gives a flying fart that a blind guy has guns? Something's wrong with that.

 

Now, how would you feel about guns having the same laws and regulations as Datsuns? 

 

And despite all those laws, rules, and regulations criminal acts still take place with automobiles on the regular.  Remember, you made the comparison.

[MikeRL411]

Convoluting Datsuns and guns to make your point here is insulting enough, but it comes off as simplistic and condescending like you're talking to children. It also makes the black or white assumption that if you seek any form of gun control to address gun violence, or even make efforts to enforce existing laws, than you are ignorant and in denial that the government is coming to take our guns. When the debate is defined in illogical terms like that, it has nowhere to go, and that suits gun nuts just fine. For many, the NRA has their ass puckered up so tight they're incapable of participating in rational conversation. 

 

Brother I own guns, as do most of my family and as a kid I was a member of the NRA. I don't believe guns are the issue, people are, but I can see this shit is out of control, and I'm not willing to pretend otherwise. I have no fucking clue what the answer is, but I know how we're handling it now ANTE WORKING, and I strongly believe we can do MUCH BETTER. All the problems of this country are at stale mate because of the inability of both extremes to compromise. It's become a Zero-Sum Game of win or lose rather than a Non-Sum Game capable of producing a win win outcome.

 

So let me make a counter point using Dats and guns. There's far less legislative control and regulation over my weapons that are designed to take life, than there is over my Datsun, designed for transportation. For instance, I have to register my Datsun every year, I had to pass a test to get, and maintain a license to operate it, attached to that license is a government database with my entire driving and legal record, my age, a photo of me, and my address, I have to operate my Datsun under very strict laws that are closely monitored by city and state police at all times. if I break these laws I'm fined and my ability to drive can be restricted or revoked and my Datsun imponded, I have to insure it to protect others around me, about a year ago I had to take a vision test that I could not pass, so I can't even drive my Datsun any more. Dude I can't see for shit, but no one gives a flying fart that a blind guy has guns? Something's wrong with that.

 

Now, how would you feel about guns having the same laws and regulations as Datsuns? 

 

The "Bill of Rights" now known as the original 10 amendments to the US Constitution were originally 11 amendments.  the failed one prohibited seated members of the legislature from accepting a pay raise while they were serving in congress [since they would in effect vote themselves more money].  Since it had no expiration date, maybe a few more state governments should ratify it ?

 

We can argue til we are dead about firearms, but it is clear from the Federalist Papers that resistance to over powerful central government was a prime concern for the founding fathers.  So they with the bill of rights corrected an omission in the original draft of the US Constitution so that there would be no abrogation of prior "Rights of Englishmen" as quoted in many state constitutions of the original 13 States.

 

Note that no one argues over the right to own a horse!  BTW, my ancestors in Ireland were forbidden to own a horse with the value of 5 Pounds!  We got away because Queen Elizabeth [the first] issued a royal decree that the McDonalds [and MacDonnells] of Ireland were "Loyal denizens of Scotland".  My family is still in posession of our family farm for 500 plus years [no church or tax records go back due to burning of church records (the only legally recognized records)].

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https://twitter.com/MooreSenate/status/931259892664537088

[bananahamuck]

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Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · minutes ago

 

The Al Frankenstien picture is really bad, speaks a thousand words. Where do his hands go in pictures 2, 3, 4, 5 & 6 while she sleeps? .....

 

4,250 replies 2,411 retweets 7,744 likes

 

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/931357870024687616

 

[Dguy210]

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So let me make a counter point using Dats and guns. There's far less legislative control and regulation over my weapons that are designed to take life, than there is over my Datsun, designed for transportation. For instance, I have to register my Datsun every year, I had to pass a test to get, and maintain a license to operate it, attached to that license is a government database with my entire driving and legal record, my age, a photo of me, and my address, I have to operate my Datsun under very strict laws that are closely monitored by city and state police at all times. if I break these laws I'm fined and my ability to drive can be restricted or revoked and my Datsun imponded, I have to insure it to protect others around me, about a year ago I had to take a vision test that I could not pass, so I can't even drive my Datsun any more. Dude I can't see for shit, but no one gives a flying fart that a blind guy has guns? Something's wrong with that.

 

Now, how would you feel about guns having the same laws and regulations as Datsuns? 

 

So when did we add the right to drive Datsuns to the Constitution's Bill of Rights, because I must of missed that.

 

The RIGHT to BEAR ARMS is a right, as defined by our Founding Father's a right is something you've always had "endowed by the creator" not something the Government gives you.

 

Driving on the public roads is a PRIVILEGE. Do not conflate and/or confuse the two as the same thing. 

 

RIGHTS are NOT PRIVILEGES.

 

Because if you want to start stating your RIGHTS are PRIVILEGES the Government "allows" you to have....

[tr8er]

So when did we add the right to drive Datsuns to the Constitution's Bill of Rights, because I must of missed that.

 

The RIGHT to BEAR ARMS is a right, as defined by our Founding Father's a right is something you've always had "endowed by the creator" not something the Government gives you.

 

Driving on the public roads is a PRIVILEGE. Do not conflate and/or confuse the two as the same thing.

 

RIGHTS are NOT PRIVILEGES.

 

Because if you want to start stating your RIGHTS are PRIVILEGES the Government "allows" you to have....

The Declaration of Independence clarified our intention to award all citizens the right to the pursuit of happiness. Back in those days they didn't have the Name Datsun yet sooo.

[datzenmike]

So when did we add the right to drive Datsuns to the Constitution's Bill of Rights, because I must of missed that.

 

The RIGHT to BEAR ARMS is a right, as defined by our Founding Father's a right is something you've always had "endowed by the creator" not something the Government gives you.

 

Driving on the public roads is a PRIVILEGE. Do not conflate and/or confuse the two as the same thing. 

 

RIGHTS are NOT PRIVILEGES.

 

Because if you want to start stating your RIGHTS are PRIVILEGES the Government "allows" you to have....