a.d._510_n_ok Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 As repugnant as liberalism might seem to conservatives and visa versa, both have contributed to making one hell of a great country. True, classic liberalism that ferociously supports diversity of thought even while vehemently disagreeing with the other side is a beautiful thing. True conservatism that keeps the nation mindful of it's founding principle of limited government should naturally enable vibrant liberalism without endorsing it. 3 Link to comment
RatVonDude Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 NFL bends at the knee... Releases statement that players should stand. I guess when your ratings take a nose dive... management starts to care. too late. I'm sick of looking at afros, pink ribbons and Islamic beards 2 Link to comment
tr8er Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 So the gov is reducing regulations on hiv distribution? 2 Link to comment
racerx Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 Some even say that their is a possibility a Chinese muslim sailor discovered Murica before Columbus. History is always written by the victors. Who knows if Hitler conquered Europe and the world then maybe the world today will be totally different and we will all be speAking german Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 What a match. Argentina hasn't won at Ecuador since 2001, elevation kills us, same happens with Bolivia, add that and being down 0-1 40 seconds in.....ya what a match, took a freak like Messi to carry the team :thumbup: Link to comment
a.d._510_n_ok Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 So the gov is reducing regulations on hiv distribution? yep. assault viruses are now easier to acquire. 3 Link to comment
Dguy210 Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 Some even say that their is a possibility a Chinese muslim sailor discovered Murica before Columbus. History is always written by the victors. Who knows if Hitler conquered Europe and the world then maybe the world today will be totally different and we will all be speAking german10th century Norse explorers (Vikings) were likely the first (obviously discounting those who likely came over on the Bering land bridge). The "Chinese Muslim" smacks of pushing a narrative to me. 2 Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 Isn't a discovery something you accomplish first before any other person?, The only thing those guys discovered was the fact that most Spaniards were ignorant in believing the world was flat, that's all they discovered, congratulations Spain, you are stupid. Columbus day should remain a holiday, the day Spain confirmed their ignorance! 3 Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 This isnt reassuring. https://www.statnews.com/2017/10/11/pharmacist-congress-drug-delivery/ Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 This isnt reassuring. https://www.statnews.com/2017/10/11/pharmacist-congress-drug-delivery/ Not surprised here, not one bit! Link to comment
tr8er Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 Isn't a discovery something you accomplish first before any other person?, The only thing those guys discovered was the fact that most Spaniards were ignorant in believing the world was flat, that's all they discovered, congratulations Spain, you are stupid. Columbus day should remain a holiday, the day Spain confirmed their ignorance! So awesome. And dead accurate. Columbus was using maps that charted the Americas but it was largely discredited. Evidence suggests these lands were charted before the end of the Pleistocene era. As was the practice of cartography, older maps were copied and compiled to make new maps. Many parts of the sea, in Columbus era maps, show land masses that were covered up at the regression of the Pleistocene glaciers as the sea level rose. As well, we see continents connected that are now covered with ocean, and coastlines matching inundation maps from thousands of years before glacial minimum. Underworld is an excellent read on this topic. But Catholisism wrote that chapter, as it was the first they knew of it. 3 Link to comment
paradime Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 Aren't we forgetting that Columbus thought he was going to India and, being the vain and self-important ass he was, insisted he had found it. So he named the native people "Indians." The "American" part came later, after everyone but Columbus had recognized his fuck up, and the new world was named after another Italian navigator, Amerigo Vespucci. 3 Link to comment
DaBlist Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 Aren't we forgetting that Columbus thought he was going to India and, being the vain and self-important ass he was, insisted he had found it. So he named the native people "Indians." That is funny 1 Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 Aren't we forgetting that Columbus thought he was going to India and, being the vain and self-important ass he was, insisted he had found it. So he named the native people "Indians." The "American" part came later, after everyone but Columbus had recognized his fuck up, and the new world was named after another Italian navigator, Amerigo Vespucci. That's a whole other side story, hilarious one too, stupid people. Link to comment
paradime Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 Here's another interesting side story. Columbus was imprisoned in Spain for the barbaric acts of torture he used to govern Hispaniola (Haiti and Dominican Republic). His brutality was so profitable though, King Ferdinand pardoned him and financed his fourth voyage of plunder. The Crazy thing is, as self centered ignorant and psychopathically greedy as this was, Columbus perfectly represented the culture of wealth power and oppression he brought to these lands he "discovered". We should be damn proud to be Americans, because we chose independence, individual freedom, and representative democracy over colonialism and monarchal rule. Although I understand the power of mythologizing our way around some ugly truths, I think we owe it to ourselves to be honest about our history warts and all. 4 Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 Here's another interesting side story. Columbus was imprisoned in Spain for the barbaric acts of torture he used to govern Hispaniola (Haiti and Dominican Republic). His brutality was so profitable though, King Ferdinand pardoned him and financed his fourth voyage of plunder. The Crazy thing is, as self centered ignorant and psychopathically greedy as this was, Columbus perfectly represented the culture of wealth power and oppression he brought to these lands he "discovered". We should be damn proud to be Americans, because we chose independence, individual freedom, and representative democracy over colonialism and monarchal rule. Although I understand the power of mythologizing our way around some ugly truths, I think we owe it to ourselves to be honest about our history warts and all. Should we decimate our historical monuments though? 1 Link to comment
paradime Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 Should we decimate our historical monuments though? I should know better than to engage in conflating apple to orange debates for political ends but... I think there is gray area with respect to national historic value and significance, but the meaning of historical monuments can change over time, and with changing social awareness of what they represent. If I rely in my personal political beliefs than it should be left to the states and cities to decide weather a particular monument represents their beliefs and culture. If they decide it does not, another city or state that wants to preserve that monument and honor what it represents, they should pay to have it moved to their community. It seems unreasonable to force anyone to honor and preserve a monument that stands for something they find distasteful. I don't see this as rewriting history, rather an expression of a community not wanting to glamorize or memorialize a historical event and what it might represent to them. If they choose to decimate it for a political statement, that may be their prerogative but it also demonstrates illogical hysteria rather that rational thinking. Should we require national consent to erect a monument in our own community? 3 Link to comment
240zness Posted October 12, 2017 Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 Someone mention the Moors? Link to comment
240zness Posted October 12, 2017 Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 No excuses , but ive never seen Tim Howard save a 35 yrd shot with his shoulder , then have to chase it down outside the penalty box .. and almost pick it up The ball should roll across the pitch(field), not bounce a foot of the ground repeatedly. World cup, meh Link to comment
bananahamuck Posted October 12, 2017 Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 Someone mention the Moors? No it's the Moops Link to comment
bananahamuck Posted October 12, 2017 Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 Fuck politics, this made my day! https://youtu.be/UY_wB8sIU4A Anything that can be played by school girls in shiney shorts, is more of an activity than a sport really. . Link to comment
thisismatt Posted October 12, 2017 Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 Anything that can be played by school girls in shiney shorts, is more of an activity than a sport really. . Like to see you survive that for 90 minutes... 1 Link to comment
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