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It was proven positively that a crowd can be sprayed with bullets from 1,300 feet away and 400 foot elevation give or take.  Doesn't take calculations to do this just a machine gun and the will. I didn't see any scopes on these rifles. Can you even shoot at a person 1,300 feet away with open sights and hope to hit them? at night???   Curious what the aiming point difference over 1,300 feet is and then being 400 feet higher. Can't be much.

 

Insane, mad, crazy, coo coo,nuts,  mentally diminished or mentally ill. You have to be one or more of them to do this. If writing down your distance and elevation is calculating something and means you are not insane then I'll trade it for crazy or mentally ill or whatever..

 

Lack of motive? Does not mean conspiracy. It means one hasn't been found (yet) or may never be found or there simply isn't one or one that's understandable.

 

 

Your words not mine.

 

 

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Thats is fucking amazing.

 

I see some pretty dang good optics on his long rifles........I am guessing you have a foggy eye when trying to debate details?

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Sorry Matt I don't watch TV and haven't seen that picture. Can you see anything at night through it on automatic. If using the scope wouldn't single fire be more accurate? Just how much higher or lower do you have to aim to correct for elevation?  

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He had on his piece of paper all the digits he needed for his windage and elevation from the front barrier to the back.

 

He also had his numbers for trying to explode the jet fuel tanks too.

 

I can figure out the how much his numbers would have to be.

 

Gimme a few minutes.

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Hotel to victims he would have to compensate for 6-7ft of drop

 

The Fuel tanks he tried to explode needed 11-12ft of drop.

 

I dont know his reticle on the optics, but longer range scopes have reticle similar to this.

 

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Oh and I haven't watched television since 2008

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being a pilot, wouldn't he know shooting those tanks would not cause any ignition with standard rounds?

 

I don't think he did.

 

Paraphrasing one of the FBI who was quoted. He said it was good that he didn't use incendiary 

 

We could also hypothesize the ammonium nitrate and tannerite was meant for the tanks, but something must have prevented the installation.

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Jet fuel is diesel. You might set fire to it but barely.

 

So a bullet that is in the air for 1 -1.25 second is going to drop 6-7 feet????? more??? because it's traveling 60 feet farther? This does not add up.

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Wrong AGAIN 

 

A large portion of the injured were from trampling or stampeding!!! 

 

Are you really a guy who opines on the least amount of information regurgitated by some other person?

My bad,they should remove those that weren't injured by bullet from the victim's list.I realize i said "hit almost 600"  Second question,no.I don't rely on opinions from regurgitated info by others that might be regurgitating on Ratsun.

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Jet fuel is diesel. You might set fire to it but barely.

 

So a bullet that is in the air for 1 -1.25 second is going to drop 6-7 feet????? more??? because it's traveling 60 feet farther? This does not add up.

Where do you keep getting this 60 feet of distance ? The fuel tanks are double the distance away . That’s over 2000 feet .
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Where do you keep getting this 60 feet of distance ? The fuel tanks are double the distance away . That’s over 2000 feet .

 

You said 1,300 feet to the audience and 400 feet of height. The slope distance is 1,360 feet. If the rifle is sighted in on a target 1,300 feet away at a gun range and then you move 400 feet higher the bullet has to travel an extra 60.147 feet. At 3,300 fps that's about 1/3 second, certainly less than 0.5 seconds of flight time.

 

How is this an extra drop of 5-6 feet?

 

How is this going to miss a crowd of people?

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You said 1,300 feet to the audience and 400 feet of height. The slope distance is 1,360 feet. If the rifle is sighted in on a target 1,300 feet away at a gun range and then you move 400 feet higher the bullet has to travel an extra 60.147 feet. How is this an extra drop of 5-6 feet?

 

 http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/traj.html

 

https://www.federalpremium.com/ballistics_calculator/

 

Here use this.

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Evil sure seems greater now days. You used to hear about delusional or angered people striking out at those around them but I don't remember them going after the masses like this. Maybe I just haven't studied it.

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You said 1,300 feet to the audience and 400 feet of height. The slope distance is 1,360 feet. If the rifle is sighted in on a target 1,300 feet away at a gun range and then you move 400 feet higher the bullet has to travel an extra 60.147 feet. At 3,300 fps that's about 1/3 second, certainly less than 0.5 seconds of flight time.

 

How is this an extra drop of 5-6 feet?

 

How is this going to miss a crowd of people?

5-6 feet of drop from the scope point Mike. That's based on total distance at level. The added drop would factor in, but minimally. Basically the guy was shooting at a target that was the size of a concert crowd. He couldn't easily miss. Hitting people was just the odds of taking a shot in their general direction.

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I have to prove myself right or wrong??? I might cheat you Matt.

 

 

5-6 feet of drop from the scope point Mike. That's based on total distance at level. The added drop would factor in, but minimally. Basically the guy was shooting at a target that was the size of a concert crowd. He couldn't easily miss. Hitting people was just the odds of taking a shot in their general direction.

 

The bullet would only be in flight for less than half a second say .4 seconds. At 1 g that's under 30 inches of drop. Lets say 3 feet. A lot more than I thought but not twice that. And besides wouldn't this already be dialed in on the gun sights? Wouldn't you sight the gun in for 1,300 feet before hand? So again how does a 400 foot elevation change anything? 

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A bullet travels in an arc mike not a straight line, they aren't fucking lasers.

 

The standard for small caliber rifle sighting is 100 yards point of aim at point of impact. So if your scope is sighted at 100 yards and you're shooting 400 plus, you have a lot of bullet drop.

 

What I assume is that he only bore sighted the optics not getting him a truely sighted rifle.

 

It would take a degree of precision to get on target at that distance, that being said rapid fire at that distance is just spray and pray.

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We are very glad he didn't have Incendiary rounds. He could have just rolled through south central LA and picked some up.

 

The tanks would have to be empty to light them up. If full they would just leak. Only in Hollywood does shit blow up..

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