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#1 housew

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 05:53 AM

I have a set of struts that came in my 510, and i don't know what they are. I have a feeling they are 4bolt s12 200sx struts.

 

I they work on my car, i have no desire to change them out, BUT i'd like to know what they are.

 

is there a way to tell what strut is is, or what it was used in, based on the part number?

 

my strut tube is stamped

[=O=] Nissan

54302 N8400

0 4 0 4

ATSUGI

JAPAN

 

[=0=] being the nissan symbol, Atsugi is a city in japan, im thinking the 0404 is perhaps a date code? so im pretty sure the 54302 n8400 is the only thing that matters, google doesn't seem to know anything.



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Posted 20 June 2014 - 06:00 AM

found these from DATMAN.co.uk

54302 H5150    FRONT STRUT    RH 12" wheel model    B210
54302 S3425    FRONT STRUT    RH    C130 C110
54302 U7050    FRONT STRUT    RH    610
54302 U7725    FRONT STRUT    RH    810
54303 H5150    FRONT STRUT    LH 12" wheel model    B210
54303 H7550    FRONT STRUT    LH 13in wheel model    B210
54303 Q0500    FRONT STRUT    LH    C210 C230
54303 U7050    FRONT STRUT    LH    610
54303 U7055    FRONT STRUT    LH    610
54303 U7725    FRONT STRUT    LH rust damage    810
54303 U8925    FRONT STRUT    LH    810
54303 W1000 SH    FRONT STRUT    LH    910

 

so id take 54302 to mean a left strut, and the n8400 to be what model it fits....

 

I'll check when i get home, but it would be nice to verify that my other strut is a 54303.



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Posted 20 June 2014 - 06:02 AM

Take pictures of the hub & caliper...that's the easiest way to tell what they're from.


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Posted 20 June 2014 - 06:20 AM

caliper is from a 240/260/280z

90mm caliper spacing

solid rotor

 

 

based on the wild interchangeability of the parts i don't think what brakes are on it is a good way to tell. PO said they were 200sx struts and im just looking to prove it, so i can know what im working with and research brake mods ect.

 

pics from before i took them apart
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Posted 20 June 2014 - 06:42 AM

The N in N8400 is likel ya 280z part. Solid rotor is NOT 280zx, nor is the caliper. Caliper looks like an earlier 280z.


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Posted 20 June 2014 - 07:29 AM

so it all looks like 280z stuff to you mike? (that's what i thought the brakes were, to my knowledge the 240/260/280z stuff was all the same brake wise)

 

happen to know the strut to spindle angle on the z stuff? Maybe i just don't have much positive camber since its so slammed. I have camber plates and adjustable LCA's so i can probably get it right either way, but i'd like to know what im working with.



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Posted 20 June 2014 - 12:06 PM

Z stuff

280Z - same spindle angle as 510
280ZX - more negative than 510
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Posted 20 June 2014 - 12:08 PM

Z stuff

280Z - 12° positive, same spindle angle as 510
280ZX - 8°
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Posted 20 June 2014 - 12:23 PM

thanks for the info ggzilla, ill check the angle when i get home. Very good info.



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Posted 20 June 2014 - 03:43 PM

The spacing of the Z car steering knuckle bolts is different (wider) from 510/280zx, also, IIRC, so you would have to be using Z knuckles if those are Z tubes.


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 10:11 AM

i got 8 degrees when i measured my spindle angle. I measured from the strut tube to the spindle face. That number is screaming 280zx

 

looks like the z and zx both use 90mm caliper bolt spacing (which i have)

 

happen to know the numbers on the steering knuckle spacing?

 

what about diameter of the locating boss on the steering arm that goes into the bottom of the strut? I think the 200sx is supposed to be different (bigger hole in strut?) so without a spacer the steering arm kinda floats in there. I know my steering arm and struts fit together tight. I can measure if we know which size corresponds to which struts.



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Posted 23 June 2014 - 10:27 AM

ive been reading this thread too
http://community.rat...spindle-angles/

 

 

dimedave posted up some 280zx PNs, none of which match what i have
7/78 - 8/81, L28E, 54302-P6525, alt P/N 54302-P9426
9/81 - 1/82, L28E(T), 54302-P9425, alt P/N 54302-P9426
9/81 - 1/82, L28E(T), 54302-P9426
2/82 - on, L28E(T), 54302-P9125, alt P/N 54302-P9126
2/82 - on, L28E(T), 54302-P9126, alt P/N 54302-P9426

 

still don't have a clue what they are....



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Posted 23 June 2014 - 01:13 PM

The important number is this
xxxxx-NNNxx

It is the Applied Model Code . N84
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Posted 23 June 2014 - 01:19 PM

... Atsugi is a city in japan...


Atsugi is also the name of the manufacturer of the strut, an original OEM supplier (the other was Tokico). Atsugi is now merged into JECS Hitachi.
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Posted 23 June 2014 - 01:24 PM

yea

 

so i know

b=b210

s=c130/c110

u=610/810

w=910

p=280sx

 

but still no love on what the N is. Could be 200sx? 280z? do the v6 200sx have different struts or just different hubs?



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Posted 23 June 2014 - 02:11 PM

That is not correct.

Applied Model Codes are three digit. For example
N24 = 510
N74 = 710
W50 to W90 = A10 Violet/510
B210 = H50 to H77 or more. H85 is not B210. H26 is not B210.

The most relevant question is what is N84, not "what is N"
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Posted 23 June 2014 - 05:56 PM

N84 appears to be Datsun S110 (1980-1983 200SX). Most of the S110 parts are N82-N87.

54302-N8426 is the catalog listing for 200SX "Strut Kit". I've seen this before where the strut kit is a revision of from the factory part number (the last two digits of the part number Nissan calls the "Distinction" indicating the "difference between similar parts"). Perhaps it may be they did not sell the original strut assembly 54302-N8400 to the public.
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Posted 24 June 2014 - 03:56 AM

thanks for schooling me :P

seriously would have taken me a LONG time to figure all that out.

 

so were thinking n8400 is a s110 (200sx strut). Which would make sense since the PO did say they were 200sx struts, and they haven't been matching what i thought s12 struts should be. Also (as far as i know) a really strange swap into a 510. I don't see a particular advantage, although they don't see to do the job poorly either. THANKS!



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Posted 24 June 2014 - 05:50 AM

house,

The 200sx strut (same king pin inclination or "angle" as 510) can use the Z car rotor/hub/caliper on them.

 

While these brakes are solid rotors, they are bigger than the 510 (271mm vs 232mm rotor) and the Z calipers are a stronger design with less flex which gives a firmer pedal feel.

 

So while these brakes are not vented rotors, they are still a vast improvement over the OE 510 brakes.


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 06:25 AM

thanks dave, I have the z car stuff on there now.

 

I have never seen the stock 510 stuff, i assumed the z car stuff was better, but had no idea.

 

I also have some toyota 4 pots im planning to run with the 300zx rotor and a spacer so i can get the big caliper / vented rotors. The z car stuff actually feels pretty good so the swap isn't really necessary and not high priority, but its down the road.