KlassicMotion Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 I've searched, and still haven't found my answer. I'm looking into doing the VG30 swap, but my engine is from a Pathfinder, so I need to source a trans. I haven't had any luck tracking down a 71C from a 300zx or a 71C from a VG 2wd D21. So my question is: Does the VG30 71C front case (bellhousing) share the same bolt pattern/ orientation as either the L20B or KA transmissions? Or in other words; What else can I bolt to the VG30 without any issues? Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Why not use the pathfinder transmission? Quote Link to comment
KlassicMotion Posted March 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 The Pathy engine is from a '95 Automatic 4x4. I basically traded my junk '91 4x4 auto Pathy for this, already pulled/ lower mileage engine. I have a 71B behind the L20B in my car, and I can get a KA 71C locally, or I actually have one in storage back in KS that I can ship to myself. I'm just not sure what will bolt up properly. Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Or can you use the bellhousing from the Pathy, and mount to a KA/SR/CA/VG 71C tranny? VG and KA car trannies are for sure the same 71C trannies. Bell housings are different. 1 Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 You have to swap the front cases. Quote Link to comment
KlassicMotion Posted March 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Cool, thanks guys. I thought that would be the case; needing to find a VG front case or whole 5spd transmission, I just wanted to make sure before I bought another KA 71C locally, or shipped mine to me. Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Im just not sure if the truck bellhousing will swap to a 71C... Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 VG transmission from a truck is a FS5R30A. Can be used in a VG engine transplant without swapping front cases. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 VG bolt pattern has the starter at 7:30 am Z and KA has starter at 9 am 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Non turbo VG Z31 300zx and VG powered S12s are FS5W71C 5 speeds as are the D21 Z24i and KA24E and DE powered trucks. (it's possible that the output spline is larger on the VG 71B 5 speeds than the 4 cylinder truck ones but front cases should swap if needed)) The '86-'89 Z31 turbo 300zx and VG powered D21s used the beefy FS5R30A transmission. Quote Link to comment
KlassicMotion Posted March 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 The '86-'89 Z31 turbo 300zx and VG powered D21s used the beefy FS5R30A transmission. Hmm, good to know, I didn't realize the VG D21 used the 30A. I've got a line on a 300zx 30A trans, but I'm pretty sure it's a tight fit in the 510. Or at least not as easy of a fit in a 510.... Quote Link to comment
yello620 Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 VG bolt pattern has the starter at 7:30 am Z and KA has starter at 9 am Are you sure the starter is not located "PM". 2 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 One of the VGs has the starter on the other side... could be the TT 300zx?? something but generally it's on the pass side down low like 7:00 Quote Link to comment
KlassicMotion Posted April 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Another question I've run across: Will the '85 Z31 FS5W71C "bellhousing"/front case swap over to the '82 280ZX FS5W71B? I've aquired my transmission, but it's in KS, and I need to get it to AK. Shipping will cost me $$, but if I could just swap the front case over to my 71B, I could just ship the front case, plus; I wouldn't have to have another driveshaft cut down, and I would't have to do more trans tunnel surgery.... It's a Win/Win, if it swaps... Will it swap? Quote Link to comment
yellowdatsun Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 Good grief, you're thinking way too hard on this......just use a Z31 300zx transmission like everyone else. Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 Good grief, you're thinking way too hard on this......just use a Z31 300zx transmission like everyone else. But he said he can't find one. ;) How much to ship on from Arizona to Alaska? Hell, if you're willing to pay the freight I can buy you one any time you like. That' freight's gonna be spendy though... Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 Another question I've run across: Will the '85 Z31 FS5W71C "bellhousing"/front case swap over to the '82 280ZX FS5W71B? As I recall, not directly. All the 280ZX NA transmissions I've had apart have the smaller main shaft (where it goes into the bellhousing). You'd need to machine a spacer to take up the slack. Did this once when making a 280ZX trans fit an SR20DET. Cost me about $50 at a machine shop to have the spacer made. All the KAs I've disassembled had the bigger shaft. That's what I'd use... Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 I've got a line on a 300zx 30A trans, but I'm pretty sure it's a tight fit in the 510. Or at least not as easy of a fit in a 510.... NA trans is a tight squeeze. My money is on no... Not without cutting a lot at least... But you won't break it. :thumbup: Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 O'reilly's will sell you a reman for $1600? ^_^ http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/PTQ7/FS5W71N/03249.oap?year=1987&make=Nissan&model=300ZX&vi=1209585&ck=Search_03249_1209585_676&pt=03249&ppt=C0338 Quote Link to comment
KlassicMotion Posted April 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 As I recall, not directly. All the 280ZX NA transmissions I've had apart have the smaller main shaft (where it goes into the bellhousing). You'd need to machine a spacer to take up the slack. Did this once when making a 280ZX trans fit an SR20DET. Cost me about $50 at a machine shop to have the spacer made. Thanks, that helps. I bought a whole '85 Z31 with 108K miles while visiting my parents here in KS, so I will probably just ship the whole trans up to myself. O'reilly's will sell you a reman for $1600? ^_^ http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/PTQ7/FS5W71N/03249.oap?year=1987&make=Nissan&model=300ZX&vi=1209585&ck=Search_03249_1209585_676&pt=03249&ppt=C0338 For my zip code, the price is $2010.00!!!!!! Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 I will probably just ship the whole trans up to myself. If you can get it in a plastic tote and seal it up, you can send it via someone like Greyhound a little cheaper than UPS/Fedex. Did this with a transmission I bought from New York. Slightly more hassle, but about half the price. 1 Quote Link to comment
yellowdatsun Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 But he said he can't find one. ;) How much to ship on from Arizona to Alaska? Hell, if you're willing to pay the freight I can buy you one any time you like. That' freight's gonna be spendy though... Maybe it's location, or lack of junk yards, but I could probably grab about 3 tomorrow if I wanted to. I'd try searching a bit more, there are a TON of them out there. Just one yard here has at least 4 of them. Look outside your area, but within a reasonable drive. I go down to Tucson from Phoenix once in a while to grab parts, and it's 2 hours each way. Find a place that has a few things you need, and make a day trip out of it. Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 He's in Alaska, though. The only thing close to him is Russia. :rofl: 1 Quote Link to comment
MikeRL411 Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 You'ld be surprized at how many old Japanese cars are in Vladivostok! Quote Link to comment
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