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#21 hynd5224

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 12:04 AM

I don't post on forums much, but I was under the impression from a lot of reading (not specifically at this forum) that some people are picky about where threads are placed.

 

But I do like this section... its all 1200's and I don't have to surf through tons of 510 builds


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Posted 07 March 2013 - 03:58 AM

^^Now that was a good find!!!

 

I've been to datsun1200.com they do have some good info! I also found http://www.carpartsmanual.com and they have exploded diagrams and part numbers for the 1200. I used a lot of those part numbers to search and found http://www.nissanparts.cchttp://www.courtesyparts.comhttp://www.nissanpartszone.com, and http://www.everythingnissan.com With the exception of everythingnissan.com they all do not explicitly say they have the parts. Has anyone used any of these places? I'm curious because nissanparts.cc lists a stock tach for a 1200 for $102 along with other parts that I would think went out of production a long time ago.

 

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Nissanparts.cc is an excellent company to deal with as well. got my lash pads through them.


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Posted 07 March 2013 - 08:04 AM

Nissanparts.cc is an excellent company to deal with as well. got my lash pads through them.

 Yes, I just tried to deal with them too. They are nice to deal with, just didn't have any of the parts I was looking for.

 

In case anyone wonders, according to them, no nissan dealer in the US has the below for a coupe:

Fuel tank (evapo)

Tach

Front seat belts (2pt)

filler hose (evapo)

Fuel sender

Ignition lock cylinder assembly

 

Oh well, it was worth a try right?


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Posted 07 March 2013 - 07:58 PM

Are these parts you need as well?

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 08:10 PM

yes they are, except I should have a fuel tank and sender on the way soon and should add a DCH340 to that list. Do you have any?


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Posted 08 March 2013 - 11:57 AM

On the ignition lock, are you missing the whole thing? Or is it just damaged? A lock smith fixed my mangled cylinder. I might have an extra one, I must look first. Maybe post a want add. I'll dig around and see what I have.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 04:35 PM

 Yes, I just tried to deal with them too. They are nice to deal with, just didn't have any of the parts I was looking for.

 

In case anyone wonders, according to them, no nissan dealer in the US has the below for a coupe:

Fuel tank (evapo)

Tach

Front seat belts (2pt)

filler hose (evapo)

Fuel sender

Ignition lock cylinder assembly

 

Oh well, it was worth a try right?

http://www.rockauto....8391&cc=1208854

 

buy the above - Im almost certain it's exactly the same as the 1200 lock set.I had one out of a 210 & 2 1200's & compared them, I dont think they're different at all.



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Posted 10 March 2013 - 11:13 AM

I was looking to just buy the whole steering lock assembly. I can't figure out how to get the lock cylinder out.

 

Morrisun informed me that a 620 steering lock will bolt in place, just not look original. I'm thinking for 38 bucks that's not a bad option.

http://www.ebay.com/...1b78396&vxp=mtr

 

I've got a lot of work done on it, despite the lack of parts. I'll post some pics up later this eve.


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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:06 PM

210 ones work good too



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Posted 12 March 2013 - 08:09 AM

Im telling ya the 1200 & 210 locksets are identical, buy it complete from RA.

 

I thought I had a picture of them side by side, I might be able to find one to show you but read this thread & compare the pic's to the one on RA.

 

http://datsun1200.co...Ignition_Switch

 

on the bench they're identical..... I say that with 98.999% certainty not 100% because it was 2 years ago when I compared them....

 

you have to drill into the screw heads & use an easyout to remove them, they're twist off security screws so no head



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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:48 PM

Im telling ya the 1200 & 210 locksets are identical, buy it complete from RA.

 

I thought I had a picture of them side by side, I might be able to find one to show you but read this thread & compare the pic's to the one on RA.

 

http://datsun1200.co...Ignition_Switch

 

on the bench they're identical..... I say that with 98.999% certainty not 100% because it was 2 years ago when I compared them....

 

you have to drill into the screw heads & use an easyout to remove them, they're twist off security screws so no head

I was originally getting confused on the 210/b210 difference.  :confused:   My bad! All clear now!

 

Got one ordered! It'll be nice to not have to pull the connector to shut my car off...


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 11:22 PM

Got a lot of work done on my car, who has now been dubbed "Pokey" (Gumby's horse....).

 

Tore the rest of the dash out to fix some heater controls, decided to do some cleaning while I was in there. Everything was quite greasy, but I'm not sure where it came from. I'm not complaining though because grease means no rust! :thumbup:  I repainted the metal portion of the dash (where its seen) and picked up some black oxide button head socket caps to replace the No3 phillips that were in there. I didn't find them that fun to get out, allens should be easier. Armor all'ed the dash pad and started work on re-painting the plastic portion of the dash. I picked up some precision gray (duplicolor), some model paint, and some nice brushes. I plan to do the letters in silver and re-paint the color for the heater temperature control. You can see in the picture I started it, but it still sits unfinished.

 

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I also adjusted the valves, all the intake valves were tight and it now idles much better! Since I had the valve cover off, I decided to clean it up and send it to a buddy to have it powder coated. I'll post up some pics later this week when I get it back.

 

I did take a few pics of the rust in the floors that I will have to deal with at some point. This is the passenger side. Its a bit hard to take pics of the floor when its so close to the ground...

 

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Can't wait to get it on the road!


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Posted 13 March 2013 - 07:38 AM

Ooou, typical floor cancer. Glad you ordered the new one, its best - here's a pic from the 210 one I have, found it yesterday.....

 

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 10:45 PM

Well its been a while since I've posted on here, but that's because I've been busy working on my 1200!  :thumbup: I've got it on the road again and hope to prove it reliable enough for daily driver status soon! It still needs a bit of carb tuning, but its getting there.

 

So what I've gotten done in the last almost 2 months - wow its been that long? Seems like I haven't even owned this thing that long! Time fly's when you work on your Datsun. Well I finished painting my dash and got it back together. It turned out great, but it took so much longer to do that I thought it would. The white lettering, silver edging, and the color in the heater temperature was all done with model paint. The main color was Nissan precision grey by duplicolor, I think it matched the factory color good, but the old dash was so faded I'm not really sure.

 

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I also painted my new ignition lock cylinder to match the colors of the factory one.

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I got my valve cover back from powder coating (a long time ago). He wasn't able to do a two-tone (white letters) like I wanted because that would have required a custom mask and more cheddar than I was willing to shell out.

 

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I got a fuel tank from Doug that was in pretty good shape, I had my buddy powder coat the outside, then spent an entire weekend doing a KBS fuel tank repair kit for the inside. It turned out OK, functional but not the best looking sealer. That was my fault though because I made the mistake of rotating it too late in the cure process and causing drips to form and stay. Still seals though!

 

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I rebuilt my sending unit as well. I used parts from two of them to make one functioning one. Electrical contact cleaner worked great on the wiper and resistor. I scrubbed up most of the other parts in the parts washer, added a ground lug (since I knew it wouldn't grab ground the the powder coat) and painted the top cap. Works like new! I purchased a new o-ring for the sending unit as well. If anyone is wondering they are a 4mm cross section by 52mm ID o-ring. Somewhat standard as far as metric o-rings go. I ended up buying a pack of 25 so if someone needs one PM me and I'll send it for free. They seriously cost less than a postage stamp each.

 

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With the new tank install, I replaced all of my rubber lines. FYI there is about 20 ft of 1/4" rubber fuel line in a coupe with EVAPO. That's a lot of tubing for a little car...   I had to make a new fuel filler tube since the old one was shot and the molded hose was NLA. Two mandrel bends, a 90 degree and a 45 degree, out off 1.75" steel tubing, some 1.75" ID fuel filler hose purchased from the auto parts store, and some hose clamps did the trick. A 30 degree bend MIGHT have worked better, but the 45 did the trick. Tight fit.

 

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Posted 04 May 2013 - 02:49 AM

I just may steal your idea on the dash paint.....looks the goods.  I currently have a shell that is almost ready to go for blasting and paint.  One day I will get around to updating my build thread.  Filler tube looks the goods too!


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Posted 06 May 2013 - 11:28 PM

Thanks Kelmo! The fresh painted dash makes for a nice view when you're driving. Not updating your build thread just means you're too busy making progress right??  ;)

 

A few more details for you on how I painted the dash... First I painted the 3 colors for the heater temperature with model paint (several coats). Then I masked that and the black areas that taper into the gauges and painted the precision grey. I used a plastic adhesion promoter (made by duplicolor as well) as a primer, it seemed to work good. Then I painted the white on the lettering and the silver on the edges with model paint, it took about a week and a half of evenings and tons of patience. Finally I put a matte clear over they entire part, that way everything had the same sheen and it protected the color. 


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Posted 21 May 2013 - 12:08 AM

http://www.new-datsu....com/index.html

 

Check this link out,if you have not already,I have delt with this guy before and he is great to work with.

 

 

Hope this helps



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Posted 24 May 2013 - 05:44 PM

Your 1200 is coming along very well, glad to see the gas tank sealed and powder coated. So you have igniton, gas-restored gas tank-like your solution to the very hard to find rubber fuel filler hose, may want a grommet in the bulkhead where the steel passes through-fuel line cut down one side and used as a grommet works fairly well. Have you taken it for a ride?? If not what's next??



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Posted 28 May 2013 - 11:02 PM

http://www.new-datsu....com/index.html

 

Check this link out,if you have not already,I have delt with this guy before and he is great to work with.

 

 

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Thanks! I think I've stumbled upon them during my parts searching before. They've got quite a bit of parts on there.

 

Your 1200 is coming along very well, glad to see the gas tank sealed and powder coated. So you have igniton, gas-restored gas tank-like your solution to the very hard to find rubber fuel filler hose, may want a grommet in the bulkhead where the steel passes through-fuel line cut down one side and used as a grommet works fairly well. Have you taken it for a ride?? If not what's next??

Good suggestion on the fuel line for use as a grommet, I think I'll be using that. Well I drove it around town for about a week, then decided to try for driving it to work (about 55-60 miles of highway) and it got a bit hotter than I was comfortable with. I had to stop once on the way in, then I found out it made some antifreeze disappear when I finally got to work. I'm not sure if it burned it or pushed it out through the cap, but it didn't go to the oil thank goodness. I also found out it boils gas out of the carb when you sit at a stoplight - no phenolic spacer and the first time I've ever had it in traffic. I had to stop on the way home too, but didn't loose any antifreeze. Seeing as the outside temps were cool for this region (85ish in the morning and 75ish that night) I'm thinking it needs a good cleaning of the cooling system or maybe just a bigger radiator. I'm not sure yet. Oh and I found out how far my speedo was off, in order to keep up with someone in a new car with the cruise set at 67 I had to keep my speedo just below 80! 

 

After that experience I've been debating swapping in an L-series motor just because it sure is a lot of work to do 65 for that a12, but maybe mine is just really tired. To do 65 the secondaries almost have to kick in, a little bit of wind or hill and you have to be in the secondaries. I haven't done anything to it since though, I've been in the middle of an unexpected move, but hopefully I'll be back to working on it in a month or two. For now its just an around town car  :thumbup:


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 09:00 PM

Check your timing and make sure your valaves are all adjusted to spec. this made tons of free power on my car when I first got it home and brought it back to the factory settings/ Good luck and hope it helps. Dash and tank look great.