dblockcakes Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 I've liked Datsuns for a while but could never find one, so when i seen this on craigslist (literally 2 mins from my house) and i had to go look at it. It had a a14 with a 5 speed and 174,XXX miles on it. but the day before i went to see it the guy sold the transmission -__-.It has been sitting since 94 after a kid ran it into a ditch, bent the wheel and fender and they didn't want to fix it. (or so the guy says.) so he said 200 and i figured "why not i could get about that much in scrap." So he towed it home for me yesterday, and now i have a project on my hands and im gunna need some help,because I'm not to sure of what im doing haha. I pretty much want to get it in working order. I want to swap the a14 with a KA24 and a 5speed, and have it on coilover sleeves or whatever, but im not to sure what to do with the rear. I also want to put flares on it, but dont know which ones to get. ??? Can anyone tell me what Ill need to do to get it where i want it? Anyway here are some pictures of what i started doing. Hopefully ill get some better ones tomorrow of the whole car. IMG_2563 by dblockcakes, on Flickr IMG_2562 by dblockcakes, on Flickr IMG_2558 by dblockcakes, on Flickr a datsun210 by dblockcakes, on Flickr Started stripping the carpet to see what i was working with rust wise and suprisingly there that wasnt much rust at all. IMG_2560 by dblockcakes, on Flickr and why does it have a gangstah lean??haha just bad shock/ springs? IMG_2524 by dblockcakes, on Flickr UPDATE: Took off fenders, bumpers, hood, finished tearing the carpet out, got most of the rust removed from behind the back bumper, and i think that's it. IMG_2581 by dblockcakes, on Flickr IMG_2583 by dblockcakes, on Flickr Opened up the glove box and found this mostly empty. maybe that contributed to running into the ditch. haha IMG_2590 by dblockcakes, on Flickr Mouse nests in every place possible. IMG_2594 by dblockcakes, on Flickr i found this little dude in there. IMG_2599 by dblockcakes, on Flickr IMG_2604 by dblockcakes, on Flickr IMG_2606 by dblockcakes, on Flickr Still not too sure why its leaning so much. The springs are much more compressed on this side than the other. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Copy the http://farm... part alone, then click the Image button here in Ratsun Congrats. Read the basic KA swap info here: http://datsun1200.com/modules/mediawiki/index.php?title=KA_Engine_Swap For this B310, use a 1980-1983 Datsun 200SX rear end, which is a bolt-in and strong (1980-1981) or very strong (1982-1983) Quote Link to comment
dblockcakes Posted October 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Fixed and thanks. Arent old 200sx rears hard to find?? Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Not around here, they are found in wrecking yards. So yes, we have to go look for them. Or you could use a Parts Hotline. Or just swap a Ford 9" in there. You can even buy new 9" mail order. Quote Link to comment
cxune Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Hey- I'm just getting started with an 80 210 myself- same motor, same rust, also been sitting since the early 90s.. but I guess I'm a little more lucky in that the transmission and everything else is in place with mine. I'll be watching your project with interest. Quote Link to comment
sjsilvera Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 i have an 82 210 that i am working on also. i am swapping in an SR20 into it. found a 200sx cross member that bolts right up, and the SR slots in perfectly also. for the rear i transplanted a ae86 solid backend and just transferred the mounts and spring chairs, and its pretty good. just need to find a coilover system that will fit the datsun. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Excellent. Which year 200SX crossmember? The 1977-1979 (S10) or 1980-1983 (S110)? Quote Link to comment
jalen Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 I have an '80 510!haha bringing the '80s back. I plan on swapping a ka single cam eventually. When I figure how and what I need. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 You need a KA, matching transmission, cherry picker, and about 4 hours. 1 Quote Link to comment
dblockcakes Posted October 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 i have an 82 210 that i am working on also. i am swapping in an SR20 into it. found a 200sx cross member that bolts right up, and the SR slots in perfectly also. for the rear i transplanted a ae86 solid backend and just transferred the mounts and spring chairs, and its pretty good. just need to find a coilover system that will fit the datsun. Hey- I'm just getting started with an 80 210 myself- same motor, same rust, also been sitting since the early 90s.. but I guess I'm a little more lucky in that the transmission and everything else is in place with mine. I'll be watching your project with interest. You guys should definitely post pics so i can see what you guys are working on. Quote Link to comment
c10jim Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 I've liked Datsuns for a while but could never find one, so when i seen this on craigslist (literally 2 mins from my house) and i had to go look at it. It had a a14 with a 5 speed and 174,XXX miles on it. but the day before i went to see it the guy sold the transmission -__-.It has been sitting since 94 after a kid ran it into a ditch, bent the wheel and fender and they didn't want to fix it. (or so the guy says.) so he said 200 and i figured "why not i could get about that much in scrap." So he towed it home for me yesterday, and now i have a project on my hands and im gunna need some help,because I'm not to sure of what im doing haha. I pretty much want to get it in working order. I want to swap the a14 with a KA24 and a 5speed, and have it on coilover sleeves or whatever, but im not to sure what to do with the rear. I also want to put flares on it, but dont know which ones to get. ??? Can anyone tell me what Ill need to do to get it where i want it? Anyway here are some pictures of what i started doing. Hopefully ill get some better ones tomorrow of the whole car. IMG_2563 by dblockcakes, on Flickr IMG_2562 by dblockcakes, on Flickr IMG_2558 by dblockcakes, on Flickr a datsun210 by dblockcakes, on Flickr Started stripping the carpet to see what i was working with rust wise and suprisingly there that wasnt much rust at all. IMG_2560 by dblockcakes, on Flickr and why does it have a gangstah lean??haha just bad shock/ springs? IMG_2524 by dblockcakes, on Flickr UPDATE: Took off fenders, bumpers, hood, finished tearing the carpet out, got most of the rust removed from behind the back bumper, and i think that's it. IMG_2581 by dblockcakes, on Flickr IMG_2583 by dblockcakes, on Flickr Opened up the glove box and found this mostly empty. maybe that contributed to running into the ditch. haha IMG_2590 by dblockcakes, on Flickr Mouse nests in every place possible. IMG_2594 by dblockcakes, on Flickr i found this little dude in there. IMG_2599 by dblockcakes, on Flickr IMG_2604 by dblockcakes, on Flickr IMG_2606 by dblockcakes, on Flickr Still not too sure why its leaning so much. The springs are much more compressed on this side than the other. Any ideas? previos owner had a fat girlfriend? Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 It's a little rusty, but will be fun to drive! Quote Link to comment
dblockcakes Posted October 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 It's a little rusty, but will be fun to drive! I hope so, its just gunna take some time.Can anyone tell me EXACTLY what i need to get it low and still ride decent? Whats the most bang for my buck? Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 "get it low and still ride decent" -- lower it two inches. Cut 1 coil off each spring on all four corners. that's all it takes. Quote Link to comment
dblockcakes Posted October 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 thanks man. any one know where i can get rear springs??? there sagging like grandma tits. Quote Link to comment
mrmark Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 You need a KA, matching transmission, cherry picker, and about 4 hours. You need to fly out here and do this on my 79 b310! Quote Link to comment
mrmark Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Seeing your car like this makes me realize I need to get working on mine! Quote Link to comment
sjsilvera Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Excellent. Which year 200SX crossmember? The 1977-1979 (S10) or 1980-1983 (S110)? 79-83 200sx crossmember. found it at oem-surplus.com for $50 Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Wow, they S110 seems so much wider than the 210, I'm surprise the crossmember bolts right in w/o modification. Quote Link to comment
dblockcakes Posted October 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Anyone know if i could run coilovers on the rear? If so what mods would have to be made? And im thinking of building the a14, but is it worth it? i want to get is going as fast as possible, and i like the idea of keeping the motor but its hard to find a trans. whats the smartest idea? i also found this on Craigslist. http://norfolk.craigslist.org/pts/3341240314.html how easy of a swap is this? 1 Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 A14 will NOT get it going as fast as possible, no matter how much money you spend on the A14. You can bolt a stock pickup KA24DE in from a wrecking yard and it will be faster than a $5000 A14. Or swap a Ford 5.0 in there (it fits). Datsun 210 already has rear coilovers. It has a 4-link with coils over the shocks. You can fit shock/coilover aftermarket units, but why? A couple months ago someone just get heavier springs from another Datsun and it firmed up the back (maybe too firm...) Quote Link to comment
king bee66 Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Anyone know if i could run coilovers on the rear? youd need something like these http://www.ground-control-store.com/products/description.php/II=758/CA=27 Quote Link to comment
sjsilvera Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Wow, they S110 seems so much wider than the 210, I'm surprise the crossmember bolts right in w/o modification. it fits perfectly. i put my build on a different website, wheelsjamaica.com if you want to see it. go to that site, hit the nissan/infinity section and on that page my thread is there titled datsun 210 project sr20. pics and some details, its not finished but the engine is in Quote Link to comment
sjsilvera Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 as you speak of engines, a lot of people have to cut the tunnel when swapping in the sr engine, but i just found out last night, that if you swap in a sr20 with a ka24 gearbox, only changing the ka bell housing to the sr bell housing, it shortens the gearbox and slots it back in the original slot, and provides some better gear ratios. Quote Link to comment
80datson Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 http://community.ratsun.net/topic/32275-ka24de-210/ check this build out to get some inspiration/ideas/motivation. (: Quote Link to comment
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