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#1 JZ33

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:42 PM

I was on Zilvia and came across this thread (should be able to view it, if not let me know!)

http://zilvia.net/f/...ca-members.html

I just wanted to know how some of the other CA members feel and if this is ACTUALLY happening or just more hype over nothing... I would fully support it if this is not just some failed attempt...

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:49 PM

http://community.rat...cles-from-smog/

A lot of members are on board. If people actually pushed for it, it should help some. I mean, why not try? It'll open up soo many interesting possibilities in the Jap scrap world. :lol:

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:54 PM

I already emailed all the senators...
You should too.. I mean cereal, some 280zs can be smog exempt, and 620s or b210s!!!! Think of all the possibilities!!!!!
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 11:34 PM

^^^ Thats exactly what I was thinking! And so many other cars too!

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 07:56 AM

pass this bill damnit lol I need a weber or a motor swap, it needz moar powaa captain

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 12:29 PM

I sent emails a few weeks ago, lot's of "out of the office" replies ... but still, contact these folks!

There is still time to "be heard" ...

The hearing scheduled for March 27, 2012 on California Senate Bill (S.B. 1224) has been postponed until April 10, 2012.



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Posted 12 April 2012 - 08:03 AM

Dear ACCC Supporter,

Well SB1224 LaMalfa fell two votes short (3 yes & 1 no) of passing the
Senate Trans Committee today. However, if LaMalfa can round up two
more votes then the bill passes through that committee. Those who
voted in favor of the bill are Senators Gaines, Harman and Wyland.
Those who voted against are Senators DeSaulnier, Lowenthal, Pavley and
Simitian. Senators Kehoe and Rubio did not vote on the bill.

In the meantime, I urge you to Contact Senators DeSaulnier, Lowenthal,
Pavley, Simitian, Kehoe and Rubio *(Contact Info Below)* Immediately
to Request Their Support for S.B. 1224. Please do not email these
Senators, we have found that they do not read their emails. Please
phone or fax your support of this bill. In addition, please feel free
to use any of the following information in your calls or faxes.

In the bill analysis from members of the American Lung Association;
Sierra Club; and the Bay Area Air Quality folks we found some of the
statements to be false, a bit confusing, and often times misleading.
Below is the rebuttal.

1.* “This bill exempts from the smog check program many vehicles
contributing the highest levels of pollution”.* If the smog checks
are being performed properly every two years on the approx 162,000
vehicles and the program is successful then how can these vehicles be
the highest contributors?

2.* “In 2004 CARB estimated that, by 2010, pre-1982 cars would
account for more than 1/5 of the hydrocarbons and 1/10 of the nitrous
oxide emissions”.* This is an estimate and I repeat an estimate from
over 8 years ago on vehicles pre 1982. What are the numbers today and
not from 2004. I would suggest that if CARB is doing their job these
numbers should be and are probably lower than stated in the analysis.
In addition, this bill talks about pre 1981 not pre 1982.

3. The statements regarding the Consumer Assistance Program (CAP) is
also somewhat irrelevant. Paying up to $500.00 for repairs to the
vehicle’s smog system when repairs are often $1000.00 or more just
for a CARB approved catalytic convertor doesn’t help lower income
folks. Also BAR providing $1000.00 to retire the vehicle doesn’t
help the same lower income folks who need a car to get back and forth
to work.

4. Collector Car owners of vehicles 1976 through 1980. i.e. Corvettes,
Mustangs, Porsches, Mercedes, Mopars, etc. are all well maintained and
the Vehicle Miles Traveled (VMT) is very low in comparison to the
overall fleet.

5. At the last and final meeting of the California Inspection
Maintenance & Review Committee (IMRC) November 2011 the IMRC stated
and I quote;

*“Although some argue that pre-1976 model-year vehicles also
contribute significant emissions, the reality is that this portion of
the fleet has a very low Vehicle Miles Traveled (VMT) fraction of the
overall fleet. As a result, the cumulative emissions from these
vehicles is probably insignificant”.*

6. This bill recognizes the minimal impact of pre-1981 vehicles on
emissions and air quality and acknowledges that pre-1981 vehicles
still constitute a minuscule portion of the overall vehicle population
and are a poor source from which to look for emissions reduction.

7. This bill endorses the fact that pre-1981 vehicles are
overwhelmingly well-maintained and infrequently driven (a fraction of
the miles each year as a new vehicle).

8. For years, legislators, regulators and stationary source polluters
have felt the heat from failed efforts to meet air quality goals and
have looked to older cars as a convenient scapegoat, using false data
and inflated annual mileage assumptions to further their case. S.B.
1224 helps validate the truth. The old car hobby should not continue
to carry the burden of past mistakes!


*CONTACT INFORMATION*

*Senator Mark DeSaulnier, Chair *
*State Capitol, Room 5035 *
*Sacramento, CA 95814 *
*916/651-4007 Office *
*916/445-2527 Fax *

*________________________________________*

*Senator Ted Gaines, Vice Chair *
*State Capitol, Room 3056 *
*Sacramento, CA 95814 *
*916/651-4001 Office *
*916/324-2680 Fax *

*________________________________________*

*Senator Tom Harman *
*State Capitol, Room 3070 *
*Sacramento, CA 95814 *
*916/651-4035 Office *
*916/445-9263 Fax *

*________________________________________*

*Senator Christine Kehoe *
*State Capitol Room 5050 *
*Sacramento, CA 95814 *
*916/651-4039 Office *
*916/327-2188 Fax*

*________________________________________*

*Senator Alan Lowenthal *
*State Capitol, Room 2032 *
*Sacramento, CA 95814 *
*916/651-4027 Office *
*916/327-9113 Fax *

*________________________________________*

*Senator Fran Pavley *
*State Capitol, Room 4035 *
*Sacramento, CA 95814 *
*916/651-4023 Office *
*916/324-4823 Fax *

*________________________________________*

*Senator Michael J. Rubio *
*State Capitol, Room 2066 *
*Sacramento, CA 95814 *
*916/651-4016 Office *
*916/327-5989 Fax*

*________________________________________*

*Senator S. Joseph Simitian *
*State Capitol, Room 2080 *
*Sacramento, CA 95814 *
*916/651-4011 Office *
*916/323-4529 Fax*

*________________________________________*

*Senator Mark Wyland *
*State Capitol, Room 4048*
* Sacramento, CA 95814*
*Phone: (916) 651-4038*
*Fax: (916) 446-7382*



Thank you,
Association of California Car Clubs


#8 MegatherioN

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:39 AM

Go to this thread to watch the hearing videos in case you missed it.
http://community.rat...030#entry670030

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 06:19 PM

Seriously, the Sierra Club can go fuck themselves. Rich pricks have bought their way into their own private little wild kingdoms, then use legal bullshit to make sure "their" nature doesn't get despoiled. The ALA can also get bent.

They won't let you drive they're newer, heavier, safer, well insured cars but they'll put you in a 250hp soup can? Dude, your parents are dicks.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 06:21 PM

I'm guessing this didn't get passed...
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 06:33 PM

Yeah and fuck Ducks Unlimited too!!!!

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 09:01 PM

so did it bill get passed?? is it to late???if soo then i am gonna look for a extended <king cab> truck

Also there should be a pettion at JCCS so i can and will sign it..

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 09:04 PM

I think it didn't pass..

Actually it failed.. and is still up for reconsideration.
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Posted 17 August 2012 - 09:25 PM

kinda had a feeling it would..i watch the videos.. the guy was like "OH 24 tons per day.." but in reality it was like less then 3%

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 08:34 AM

The sierra club was set up by the U.S goverment to squash stuff like this they are all on the same side it is a shell game but there is no pea under any shell. 3 card monty!!