poor-mans-720 Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 So, I know that the Tension bars up front have been a big issue for the 720 wheelers. I am trying to find a way to relocate them to the rear of the wheels. see if i cant get more clearance and more importantly articulation. So this is what i got... This is a mount that I want to relocate the bars too. it would still triangulate the lower control arm to the frame something like this. Plan on doing something with the upper and lower control arms too. need more lift... Quote Link to comment
K_trip Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Correct me if I'm wrong, but doing that means they won't be tension bars anymore. The would be compression bars, and may need to be beef'd up some. In my mind it's like spokes on a bicyle wheel, they can be thin because steel is very strong under tension. Take a spoke from from a bicyle wheel and compress it ... it will twist and bend like a pretzel. I have a '71 Ford F100 4x4 with coils in the front (4 inch lift too) which uses "rods" like you're talking about. They look more like beams than rods ... see if you can find examples of your idea on other makes of trucks. Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 K-trip, those are radius arms. Same idea though. I agree they would need to be a bit beefier, especially being a wheeler. You might just beef them up in the stock position and use them as sliders. :lol: Quote Link to comment
K_trip Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 2eDeYe' date='09 March 2012 - 07:56 AM' timestamp='1331308592' post='650799']K-trip, those are radius arms. Of course you are correct ]2eDeYe - thank you! If I were to replace them, that's what I would be asking for. (my terms were more for conception - if that makes any sense) Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Totally made sense :D Quote Link to comment
poor-mans-720 Posted March 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 okay, yea. I know why ya mean about the radius arms. Had them on an ol ford I had. But im just curios to if it is going to help with the ride, articulation, and lift any. Okay gotcha on the tension, compression rod thing. Two different methods, same results. +1 on the beefier stock ones. These bend everytime I go out. But if I make them bigger, there goes my approach angle even worse then what it is. Guess im just trying to reinvent the front end, cause it sucks for a wheeler. Making due, till I can afford a Dana 44, and the swapmeet Is tomorrow, so tomorrow what I can do... Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 I think increasing the articulation will only stress the constant velocity joints anyway. Quote Link to comment
Master-O-Turbonics Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 They are called T/C rods (tension/compression) because depending if you are braking or accelerating it is going to be putting different stresses on the rods... Look at the T/C rod mounts on an S30 Z car. Pretty darn beefy and well tied in to the frame rail... meant for taking on HUGE braking loads. Build the rear mount very beefy and as low as you can(geometry).. hopefully at the same height from the ground as the Lower control arm inner pivot. Quote Link to comment
poor-mans-720 Posted March 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 never thought of it that way. Good info. I wonder if, the reason they bend so easy is cause of the wheeling... Braking and accel. Prolly have to be beefy to take on the four wheel drive too alot of compression. Quote Link to comment
Nathyne Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Honestly I think you would be better off putting the work in to do a SAS instead of trying to fab something like that up. Interesting idea for sure though I think some kink of coil overs may be more feasible as well. Quote Link to comment
poor-mans-720 Posted March 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 yea but the Dana 44 is hella expensive. This is a low budget truck... Hella low budget. Quote Link to comment
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