nis720 Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 At first I wanted to simply shorten the 8.8 rear end, but after considering the cost I decided I might as well go all out and do it right the first time. I had the Gear Shop shorten the housing and install large bearing Ford Torino 9" ends. This was the better choice to the 8.8 C-clip eliminator kits that tends to leak. Since I was getting custom axles made I went with stronger 31 spline to run a Cobra or Explorer LSD unit. For the brakes I went with a cobra brake setup with 11.6" vented rotors. I wanted to install the axle on the stock suspension for now, eventually 4 link (when I get some $$$ for that). First on my list was Moser spring perches. The 8.8 housing have different lengths depending on the year: The one I got was from a 2000 Mustang. Cut off all the brackets. Mocked up the rear end with the perches in place before dropping it off at the Gear Shop. Figured the pinion angle before tacking perches. Quote Link to comment
nis720 Posted February 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 The Gear Shop shortened the housing, installed Mark Williams Ford Torino 9” large bearing ends, made custom 31 spline axles, Currie Enterprises Cobra brake brackets (CE-6011BCT) and pressed on the 3.150 bearings/rings. This is what I got back. Parts list: Mark Williams - 57860 - Ford 9" ends Mark Williams - ML-507 - 3.150 Bearings and rings Currie - CE-6011BCT - Brake brackets/retainer plates National - 51098 - Housing end seals Custom Axles - 31 spline The length w/out the rotors. It’s 54” total wms to wms with the rotors. As far as gearing there’s a broad range of options, same goes for the LSD. I went with G2 Axles 3.73 gearing and master ring and pinion install kit. I was able to pickup a used Cobra 31 spline LSD for cheap. Cobra flange for 1350 U-Joints. Comparison between the H190 and the 8.8. Got the gears setup by Bermudez Gears and my friend painted the housing single stage black. Quote Link to comment
nis720 Posted February 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Installed the housing under the truck and used the stock drive shaft for measuring reference. B&H made a custom one piece drive shaft using Ford U-Joints and attached a Nissan yoke for the transmission. Quote Link to comment
josh_t Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 mmm. nice. if i swap a bigger motor in my car or do something drastic in the future to my engine, i want an 8.8. this thread may be very informative for me. can you post what you paid for all this stuff? i need a price figure to see if this is practical for the future. Quote Link to comment
nis720 Posted February 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Used 95-04 Cobra rear brake components. For the brake lines I measured out and purchased 3AN stainless steel braided lines for now (Once it's 4-linked I will run hard lines) with a 3AN tee. I used a fitting to accept the stock 10mm x 1.0 inverted flare into a male 3AN. Quote Link to comment
nis720 Posted February 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Last step is the parking brake. (coming soon) Quote Link to comment
I'm BLUE Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Very nice so far :thumbup: ...looks great! What gear ratios? Did the inner tubes get welded straight to housing? I cant see haha sorry how much to set up prepossessed/ring pinion/ if i may ask ( pm if comfy) ... i may be doing this in the future. I just barely picked up my 98 ...8.8 explorer lsd diff yesterday ... going to keep stock length and run positive offset wheels ob my zcar :) Quote Link to comment
Dat Lurka Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 I clicked this thread wanting to see 8.8L Ford Super Duty V8 in a Datsun. Am disappoint. Quote Link to comment
nis720 Posted February 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 mmm. nice. if i swap a bigger motor in my car or do something drastic in the future to my engine, i want an 8.8. this thread may be very informative for me. can you post what you paid for all this stuff? i need a price figure to see if this is practical for the future. Expect to spend around $2500-3000 for the setup I'm running. But keep in mind there is cheaper alternatives to shortening a 8.8. Very nice so far :thumbup: ...looks great! What gear ratios? Did the inner tubes get welded straight to housing? I cant see haha sorry how much to set up prepossessed/ring pinion/ if i may ask ( pm if comfy) ... i may be doing this in the future. I just barely picked up my 98 ...8.8 explorer lsd diff yesterday ... going to keep stock length and run positive offset wheels ob my zcar :) 3.73 gears Yes the axle tubes are welded all the way around. The installation/setup of the gears runs about $200, but I paid less because my friend did part of it and he knew the guy that did the work (barter system is the best). Keep in mind the explorer rear end is offset pinion. I clicked this thread wanting to see 8.8L Ford Super Duty V8 in a Datsun. Am disappoint. Sorry to disappoint. I'm running a single cam KA. Quote Link to comment
Rustina 510 Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Wow great work. That will hold up forever running a ka Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Sweet write up. Sounded like the perfect option for my Fairlane, until I saw the price tag! :( Great work! Quote Link to comment
Pacific coast Datsun Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 This does NOT dissapoint me. Clean work as always Moises. Quote Link to comment
Shagy Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 wow...basically what I want to do to my wagon...I like. whats the size of the rotors on the back. I'm looking @ a minimum of 16" wheels for the front...I dont know if the rear would make it a minimum of 17". Quote Link to comment
nis720 Posted February 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 wow...basically what I want to do to my wagon...I like. whats the size of the rotors on the back. I'm looking @ a minimum of 16" wheels for the front...I dont know if the rear would make it a minimum of 17". Let me know when you want to start. The rear rotors are 11.61" vented. Right now I have 16" Mustang wheels and they clear just fine. I've heard of people running 15" Weld wheels for drag racing, only issue would be the banjo bolt rubs it there's too much backspacing. Simple fix is to get a lower profile banjo bolt. Quote Link to comment
Shagy Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Do you think it would cut down the cost if I were to get a 97 ish explorer rear end that already has the LSD and disc? Then just have the ranger axle put in it? Oh, and check your PM's Quote Link to comment
dez Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 unless you get the FX4 axles or the latest body style axles they will be 28 spline and will not work with the explorer 31 spline center Quote Link to comment
I'm BLUE Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Expect to spend around $2500-3000 for the setup I'm running. But keep in mind there is cheaper alternatives to shortening a 8.8. 3.73 gears Yes the axle tubes are welded all the way around. The installation/setup of the gears runs about $200, but I paid less because my friend did part of it and he knew the guy that did the work (barter system is the best). Keep in mind the explorer rear end is offset pinion. Sorry to disappoint. I'm running a single cam KA. Thankyou for the infomoration man! :cool: I like ka's :D If i stick with a 4-spec manual trans behind 350 ... i was looking at 3.36-ish or higher gears ... high torque will pull it right along. It would be cheaper for Me to get another 8.8 with higher gears ... unfortunately unless truck open it will be lighter 28-splines ... it defeats the purpose of me saving moneys lol. yup ... most straight axles are offset pinions in my experience. Many people think they are centered. i will be welding my tubes to the housing regardless ... carefully lol. around 3.5-4 inches offset i believe on my 8.8 Lsd ( rough eyeball measurement) For $200 i will have mine setup by a pro ... i do not have the correct equipment to setup these rears ( nor have i tried on 8.8 ) Ford 8.8 and gm 12-bolt share a more similiarities than differences according to an article. Ford 8.8 that have 31-splines count ... are one spline larger than gm 12-bolt (30 splines) and gm 12- bolt posi is tough! !!! You did a great job with the pics man! !! Great info :cool: Quote Link to comment
nis720 Posted March 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Do you think it would cut down the cost if I were to get a 97 ish explorer rear end that already has the LSD and disc? Then just have the ranger axle put in it? Oh, and check your PM's Keep in mind I went from a bare (no gears, LSD or axles) 8.8 housing to a fully built Cobra unit. If you get a 8.8 that's complete you'll be spending way less. On the explorer rear ends the disk brakes are different, the parking brake is a drum style within the disk itself. Reason I had to go with cobra brakes is because of the Ford 9" style ends require different brakes, and this was the cheaper alternative to the Wilwood one. The way I went about building mine was extreme and unconventional, but well worth it for me. I didn't get a PM. Quote Link to comment
skyblue Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 what'd that driveshaft run you? Been thinking about doing that for my 521. Quote Link to comment
nis720 Posted March 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 what'd that driveshaft run you? Been thinking about doing that for my 521. Custom drive shaft was about $240 at a local shop. Quote Link to comment
datsunuff Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 anyone know how long the driveline is on the 720? Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 But why? The H190 is already strong enough for a KA24E engine. Quote Link to comment
datsunuff Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 ggzilla, tried to IM you to explain...can you IM me? (if the above comment was intended for me) thx Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Nah, my question was for Nis720. Why swap an 8.8 unless you need the strength? You can get disk brakes and LSD for the H190. Quote Link to comment
Farmer Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Its not your average common ka24e, Check out his build thread Quote Link to comment
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