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#1 ]2eDeYe

]2eDeYe
  • Location:Marysville, WA
  • Cars:78 620 KC, 77 620 KC, 72 CJ5, 04 G35 coupe mmmm

Posted 01 February 2012 - 06:58 PM

I moved this thread over here to allow adding of other peoples swaps using my mounts and to help address all the little issues that come up during this swap.
 
This is the link to the ad in the classifieds.
 
http://community.rat...ne-swap-mounts/
 
 
 

Here is Version 4.0 of my KA24-620 Swap brackets. The mounts are a 3/4" drop from the factory KA mounts. They will fit the KA24E and KA24DE with stock 620 rubber motor mounts and allow you to bolt the KA to your 620. These mounts require the later style 620 rubber motor mount for the L20B.

 

You will still have to deal with the center link flip/ oil pan clearancing with the 240 DE swap and any other transmission issues due to your choice of transmission. This is not required when using a truck KA. If you run a 720 5-speed from behind a Z-series motor it should bolt to the stock transmission mount at the stock crossmember location.

 

I also have a MAF and Fuel Pump Bracket available.

 

All parts are steel, powder coated black and ready to install.

 

 

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New Fuel Pump Bracket installed.

 

 

 

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Reference links for the KA swap.

 

How to wire a KA, CA, SR, and VG into anything

 

KA24E into a 620

 

KA24DE into a 620


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1977 620 KingCab Deluxe KA24DE Swap - Refresh and cleanup
1978 620 kingcab 4x4 - KA24E SAS w/Dana 44 front and Toyota rear

1967 RL411 Station Wagon

 

Whenever I think that I'm out of my mind for putting this much time and money into an old Datsun, all I have to do is look some of your threads to know that I'm not nearly as whack as you are.

You're going to skin a few knuckles, stand up too fast and bump your head, hunt around the floor for the nuts and bolts you dropped, invent a few new cuss words and when you're finished you'll say "That wasn't so hard after all!"


#2 wildmaninid

wildmaninid
  • Location:Orono ME.
  • Cars:KA24e powered 77' 620 LB

Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:38 PM

Redeye,

Helping a local kid put a DE in his 79 620. If I do a bell housing swap off of a 79 5 speed will that be close to correct for mounting the trans? If you know please let me know! Thanks!

HRH, on 04 June 2012 - 08:37 PM, said:

Okay, sounds good. I only had one guy insist on pumping my ass in Oregon. That was along the Columbia river. The rest of the time, I just hopped out and started pumping, no one said shit.



New England is strange.  Every thing good is "Wicked". Nice cars are "mint". A truck canopy is a "cap" and a tonneau is a "lid".  Losing your khakis has a whole different meaning.  


#3 ]2eDeYe

]2eDeYe
  • Location:Marysville, WA
  • Cars:78 620 KC, 77 620 KC, 72 CJ5, 04 G35 coupe mmmm

Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:20 AM

Wild,

You would just need to swap to a napz style bellhousing, Jeff did this to the green 620. That will clock the transmission mount and the shifter to the stock position with the KA.

Hope that helps. :)

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620 KA24 Motor Mount Swap Brackets

1977 620 KingCab Deluxe KA24DE Swap - Refresh and cleanup
1978 620 kingcab 4x4 - KA24E SAS w/Dana 44 front and Toyota rear

1967 RL411 Station Wagon

 

Whenever I think that I'm out of my mind for putting this much time and money into an old Datsun, all I have to do is look some of your threads to know that I'm not nearly as whack as you are.

You're going to skin a few knuckles, stand up too fast and bump your head, hunt around the floor for the nuts and bolts you dropped, invent a few new cuss words and when you're finished you'll say "That wasn't so hard after all!"


#4 datzenmike

datzenmike
  • Location:Vancouver Island
  • Cars:'74 710 sedan, '76 710. prevoius... '78 620, '71 521, '68 510 new '76 B-210

Posted 28 February 2012 - 03:29 PM

Redeye,

Helping a local kid put a DE in his 79 620. If I do a bell housing swap off of a 79 5 speed will that be close to correct for mounting the trans? If you know please let me know! Thanks!





Thanks, I guess I didn't word my question correctly.He has a de conversion, came with the transmission and engine complete. Since the 240 tranny uses a speed sensor instead of a cable and is a different length, we were thinking of using the bell housing off of that trans and the innards of a 79 5 speed...thusly morphing the two together. Just wondering if that was feasable or if you even know. K thanks lol



To use the 620 tranny you will need to find the front case from a NAPS Z engine transmission and swap onto the '79 620 5 speed. You avoid the driveshaft shortening and modifying the trans mount but you get a weaker transmission with poorer choice of gears in it

If you have the 240sx 5 speed I would try to run with that even though you will need to shorten the driveshaft, mod the mount and move the shift hole. It's stronger X2 than the '79 620 trans and much, much better gearing. You will end up with a much better product.

The speed sensor can be swapped with a speedo pinion and the stock 620 cable used. If you remove the speedo cable from all the clips and route directly down behind the motor and over the tranny to the pinion drive it should fit. Use which ever pinion you are using now because the pinion is matched to the differential not to the transmission. Using a small angle grinder and a cut off wheel score a new key way on the opposite side (180) from the one that is there now. I did this on my 710 when I changed to an '85 tailstock. Speedo works fine and went to Canby and back.

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This will allow a pre '80s speedo drive pinion to fit the newer FS5W71C transmission and replace the electric 'speed sensor'..


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#5 wildmaninid

wildmaninid
  • Location:Orono ME.
  • Cars:KA24e powered 77' 620 LB

Posted 28 February 2012 - 03:39 PM

That is exactly what I needed to know. I put the transmission that was behind the ka in my 620 so I am up on what needs to be done. Thanks for all of the information.

HRH, on 04 June 2012 - 08:37 PM, said:

Okay, sounds good. I only had one guy insist on pumping my ass in Oregon. That was along the Columbia river. The rest of the time, I just hopped out and started pumping, no one said shit.



New England is strange.  Every thing good is "Wicked". Nice cars are "mint". A truck canopy is a "cap" and a tonneau is a "lid".  Losing your khakis has a whole different meaning.  


#6 ]2eDeYe

]2eDeYe
  • Location:Marysville, WA
  • Cars:78 620 KC, 77 620 KC, 72 CJ5, 04 G35 coupe mmmm

Posted 29 February 2012 - 09:43 AM

All of that is why I went with the NAPZ 720 transmission. Bolted right in with the correct length & lean, decent gearing and designed for a 2.4L. :)

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620 KA24 Motor Mount Swap Brackets

1977 620 KingCab Deluxe KA24DE Swap - Refresh and cleanup
1978 620 kingcab 4x4 - KA24E SAS w/Dana 44 front and Toyota rear

1967 RL411 Station Wagon

 

Whenever I think that I'm out of my mind for putting this much time and money into an old Datsun, all I have to do is look some of your threads to know that I'm not nearly as whack as you are.

You're going to skin a few knuckles, stand up too fast and bump your head, hunt around the floor for the nuts and bolts you dropped, invent a few new cuss words and when you're finished you'll say "That wasn't so hard after all!"


#7 ]2eDeYe

]2eDeYe
  • Location:Marysville, WA
  • Cars:78 620 KC, 77 620 KC, 72 CJ5, 04 G35 coupe mmmm

Posted 12 July 2012 - 03:57 PM

Here's another set installed in acehole_620s truck.

http://community.rat...ild-oics-heavy/


]2eDeYe's KA24DE/E Motor Mounts

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Update:

Got the L20b out and the KA in place (needed some massaging) , flipped my centerlink and had a few beers throughout heres the Oics:

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Cleaned out my Steering Box (YUCK!!) Way better feeling now that there is new oil in there!

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Idler arm and Pitman arm in place w/ Goferit Tapered inserts in place! ( I drill pressed a 3/4 hole in both arms step up drill doesnt work very well, I then pressed the insert on and welded with a few tacs)

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KA24DE being set and massaged

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Drivers Side ]2eDeYe Mount

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Passenger Side ]2eDeye Mount

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Centerlink Installed ( 1/4" Clearance at Full Lock!!)

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Motor in Place (so happy)

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Ok so here's the rundown, the KA and 720 transmission bolted together pretty easily, I had a tough time getting the motor in place, since i really didn't have another body to help me manuever the motor around. ]2eDeye recommended motor mounts, centerlink and crossmember removal for ease of placing the motor in, so i took his advice and just removed the motor mounts and centerlink and lowered the motor and tranny as low as i could, thankfully it worked out, driveshaft yolk needed a little turn to fit the tranny and thankfully again I didnt need to modify my driveshaft..I bolted in my transmission before I did the motor mounts, after the transmission was in place i used a jack to raise the motor high enough to get the motor mounts in place and voila the motor fit like a freakin glove!!



Thanks for the tips and letting me use your pictures man, I'm sure that will help out other folks that use these mounts. :cool:

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620 KA24 Motor Mount Swap Brackets

1977 620 KingCab Deluxe KA24DE Swap - Refresh and cleanup
1978 620 kingcab 4x4 - KA24E SAS w/Dana 44 front and Toyota rear

1967 RL411 Station Wagon

 

Whenever I think that I'm out of my mind for putting this much time and money into an old Datsun, all I have to do is look some of your threads to know that I'm not nearly as whack as you are.

You're going to skin a few knuckles, stand up too fast and bump your head, hunt around the floor for the nuts and bolts you dropped, invent a few new cuss words and when you're finished you'll say "That wasn't so hard after all!"


#8 ]2eDeYe

]2eDeYe
  • Location:Marysville, WA
  • Cars:78 620 KC, 77 620 KC, 72 CJ5, 04 G35 coupe mmmm

Posted 13 July 2012 - 06:44 AM

Here are a couple shots of another KA install with these mounts.

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Thanks for letting me post your pics John. :)

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620 KA24 Motor Mount Swap Brackets

1977 620 KingCab Deluxe KA24DE Swap - Refresh and cleanup
1978 620 kingcab 4x4 - KA24E SAS w/Dana 44 front and Toyota rear

1967 RL411 Station Wagon

 

Whenever I think that I'm out of my mind for putting this much time and money into an old Datsun, all I have to do is look some of your threads to know that I'm not nearly as whack as you are.

You're going to skin a few knuckles, stand up too fast and bump your head, hunt around the floor for the nuts and bolts you dropped, invent a few new cuss words and when you're finished you'll say "That wasn't so hard after all!"


#9 acehaole_620

acehaole_620
  • Location:SF Bay Area
  • Cars:1978 Datsun 620

Posted 13 July 2012 - 02:12 PM

]2eDeYe:
Thanks for the tips and letting me use your pictures man, I'm sure that will help out other folks that use these mounts. :cool:


These mounts are like taking a tylenol when you got a headache... you pop em in and you can rest easy! If you're thinking about getting these mounts, don't think twice, follow ]2eDeYe's thread and you'll get you're KA in, in no time! :thumbup:

#10 ]2eDeYe

]2eDeYe
  • Location:Marysville, WA
  • Cars:78 620 KC, 77 620 KC, 72 CJ5, 04 G35 coupe mmmm

Posted 07 August 2012 - 04:35 PM

Awsome brackets!!!!!!!! Thank You!!!


Your truck is badass! Thanks for letting me use your pics in this thread. :D

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620 KA24 Motor Mount Swap Brackets

1977 620 KingCab Deluxe KA24DE Swap - Refresh and cleanup
1978 620 kingcab 4x4 - KA24E SAS w/Dana 44 front and Toyota rear

1967 RL411 Station Wagon

 

Whenever I think that I'm out of my mind for putting this much time and money into an old Datsun, all I have to do is look some of your threads to know that I'm not nearly as whack as you are.

You're going to skin a few knuckles, stand up too fast and bump your head, hunt around the floor for the nuts and bolts you dropped, invent a few new cuss words and when you're finished you'll say "That wasn't so hard after all!"


#11 inline4

inline4
  • Location:San Diego, CA
  • Cars:67.5 Roadster / 72 510

Posted 07 August 2012 - 06:04 PM

with the mounts set as is, is there a way that all emissions equipment could be retained?

#12 ]2eDeYe

]2eDeYe
  • Location:Marysville, WA
  • Cars:78 620 KC, 77 620 KC, 72 CJ5, 04 G35 coupe mmmm

Posted 07 August 2012 - 07:11 PM

with the mounts set as is, is there a way that all emissions equipment could be retained?



Yes the emissions equipment can be retained.

As far as I know, my truck has all the stock emissions stuff. The EGR tube is close to the firewall but it clears and the V2.0 mounts allow more clearance than this setup.

I even have the 240 evap canister plumbed into the stock fuel system.

Not sure why I don't have a pic of mine in here :lol:

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620 KA24 Motor Mount Swap Brackets

1977 620 KingCab Deluxe KA24DE Swap - Refresh and cleanup
1978 620 kingcab 4x4 - KA24E SAS w/Dana 44 front and Toyota rear

1967 RL411 Station Wagon

 

Whenever I think that I'm out of my mind for putting this much time and money into an old Datsun, all I have to do is look some of your threads to know that I'm not nearly as whack as you are.

You're going to skin a few knuckles, stand up too fast and bump your head, hunt around the floor for the nuts and bolts you dropped, invent a few new cuss words and when you're finished you'll say "That wasn't so hard after all!"


#13 ]2eDeYe

]2eDeYe
  • Location:Marysville, WA
  • Cars:78 620 KC, 77 620 KC, 72 CJ5, 04 G35 coupe mmmm

Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:26 AM

Latest run is back from powdercoat. I have 2 sets available and another run about to start.




Here are a couple pics that Icoblue took of his KA24DE from a Frontier swapped into his 620 using my mounts. He has this truck for sale in the classifieds if anyone is interested in picking up a truck that is already swapped. Some assembly required. :)

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his ad.

http://community.rat...00-richland-wa/

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620 KA24 Motor Mount Swap Brackets

1977 620 KingCab Deluxe KA24DE Swap - Refresh and cleanup
1978 620 kingcab 4x4 - KA24E SAS w/Dana 44 front and Toyota rear

1967 RL411 Station Wagon

 

Whenever I think that I'm out of my mind for putting this much time and money into an old Datsun, all I have to do is look some of your threads to know that I'm not nearly as whack as you are.

You're going to skin a few knuckles, stand up too fast and bump your head, hunt around the floor for the nuts and bolts you dropped, invent a few new cuss words and when you're finished you'll say "That wasn't so hard after all!"


#14 91b22

91b22
  • Location:Summer, Wa
  • Cars:2012 Jetta, 1979 Datsun 620KC

Posted 17 October 2012 - 11:19 AM

if you guys get these working for as 720 let me know. i would love a set!

#15 flatcat19

flatcat19
  • Location:Tri-Cities, WA/PDX
  • Cars:Smaller. Better. Slower. Lower.

Posted 19 October 2012 - 07:51 AM

You say they won't fit a 521.
Why?

Light lengthening of the mount holes or too long?

You can't hang if your nuts haven't dropped...it's physics


#16 ]2eDeYe

]2eDeYe
  • Location:Marysville, WA
  • Cars:78 620 KC, 77 620 KC, 72 CJ5, 04 G35 coupe mmmm

Posted 19 October 2012 - 07:56 AM

Not sure, I don't have a 521 to try them out on. I have been told one of the mounts is 1" or so off when modifying the stock mounts to work in a 521.

I do have a set of mounts that someone built to put a KA into a 521, but I haven't had a chance to compare them to my mounts. Now that you mentioned it though, I can check the differences now that I have some 620 mounts built again.


If anyone is doing a KA swap into a 720, I'd be more than happy to ship a set for test fitting. :)

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620 KA24 Motor Mount Swap Brackets

1977 620 KingCab Deluxe KA24DE Swap - Refresh and cleanup
1978 620 kingcab 4x4 - KA24E SAS w/Dana 44 front and Toyota rear

1967 RL411 Station Wagon

 

Whenever I think that I'm out of my mind for putting this much time and money into an old Datsun, all I have to do is look some of your threads to know that I'm not nearly as whack as you are.

You're going to skin a few knuckles, stand up too fast and bump your head, hunt around the floor for the nuts and bolts you dropped, invent a few new cuss words and when you're finished you'll say "That wasn't so hard after all!"


#17 ]2eDeYe

]2eDeYe
  • Location:Marysville, WA
  • Cars:78 620 KC, 77 620 KC, 72 CJ5, 04 G35 coupe mmmm

Posted 31 October 2012 - 08:23 AM

Thanks for the purchase seanb :)

One set left, won't get another run done til I finish my front axle swap in the 4x4.




Here's a couple more shots Hermistonkilla took of the Frontier KA swap he recentlly picked up. No need to flip the centerlink with this motor but you do have to grind the engine crossmember a little to clear the pan. You will also need to ditch the Frontier exhaust manifold as it has a buillt in cat and is HUGE. Thanks for letting me use your pictures. :thumbup:


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Fit before clearancing the crossmember.

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Fit after grinding the crossmember



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Here is a shot of the manifold to show why it won't work.

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620 KA24 Motor Mount Swap Brackets

1977 620 KingCab Deluxe KA24DE Swap - Refresh and cleanup
1978 620 kingcab 4x4 - KA24E SAS w/Dana 44 front and Toyota rear

1967 RL411 Station Wagon

 

Whenever I think that I'm out of my mind for putting this much time and money into an old Datsun, all I have to do is look some of your threads to know that I'm not nearly as whack as you are.

You're going to skin a few knuckles, stand up too fast and bump your head, hunt around the floor for the nuts and bolts you dropped, invent a few new cuss words and when you're finished you'll say "That wasn't so hard after all!"


#18 flatcat19

flatcat19
  • Location:Tri-Cities, WA/PDX
  • Cars:Smaller. Better. Slower. Lower.

Posted 31 October 2012 - 04:36 PM

Did you ever compare those 521 brackets to yours, Steve?

You can't hang if your nuts haven't dropped...it's physics


#19 ]2eDeYe

]2eDeYe
  • Location:Marysville, WA
  • Cars:78 620 KC, 77 620 KC, 72 CJ5, 04 G35 coupe mmmm

Posted 01 November 2012 - 06:14 AM

Nope went on vacation... I'll dig them out tonight and do some measuring.

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620 KA24 Motor Mount Swap Brackets

1977 620 KingCab Deluxe KA24DE Swap - Refresh and cleanup
1978 620 kingcab 4x4 - KA24E SAS w/Dana 44 front and Toyota rear

1967 RL411 Station Wagon

 

Whenever I think that I'm out of my mind for putting this much time and money into an old Datsun, all I have to do is look some of your threads to know that I'm not nearly as whack as you are.

You're going to skin a few knuckles, stand up too fast and bump your head, hunt around the floor for the nuts and bolts you dropped, invent a few new cuss words and when you're finished you'll say "That wasn't so hard after all!"


#20 seanb

seanb
  • Location:Hampton, GA
  • Cars:'77 Datsun 620, '39 Chevy Sedan, '60 Cadillac

Posted 01 November 2012 - 05:14 PM

Motor mounts look most excellent! Very professional and clean looking—looks like they came from the parts store. Can't wait to bolt 'em up. Thx for the sticker too.