ggzilla Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 OK, I've had a look through the manuals and service bulletins. Coupes came with A14 or A15, automatic, 4-speed or 5-speed. 5-speed got you the lo-po engine in USA. Quote Link to comment
goes2fast Posted January 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Wow, never thought I'd stir up that many responses. Now my question is, are all A series dog legs the same? :confused: Quote Link to comment
gpimm Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Wow, never thought I'd stir up that many responses. Now my question is, are all A series dog legs the same? :confused: No. There are 2 different dog leg transmissions. The 63A and 60L. The 63's come from the late B-210's, the 60's are from the B310 (210). The 63 is stronger and has slightly closer ratios. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Man you guys are not reading this. They are not the same, and there are THREE different ones. All different. Go back and read posts #2 and #6. The non-overdrive dogleg is relatively rare, it was sold by Nissan Competition in this country, although some have come in attached to import Japan motors. 1 Quote Link to comment
goes2fast Posted January 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Kooky. Mine is a 10/78 with a straight pattern 5spd. I'll see if I can find the numbers on it. If it was produced 10/78, it would be a 79 model, as model years change either September, or October. A production date of 10/78 wouldn't have made it to a dealer before November, so I would say it had to be a 79. Quote Link to comment
goes2fast Posted January 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Man you guys are not reading this. They are not the same, and there are THREE different ones. All different. Go back and read posts #2 and #6. The non-overdrive dogleg is relatively rare, it was sold by Nissan Competition in this country, although some have come in attached to import Japan motors. OK, now how do I tell if it is a non overdrive? :confused: Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 If it was produced 10/78, it would be a 79 model, as model years change either September, or October. A production date of 10/78 wouldn't have made it to a dealer before November, so I would say it had to be a 79. Oh, I didn't doubt for a second it's a '79. ;) I just found it odd that people are saying the '79 210 used a B210/dogleg trans, rather than the typical straight-pattern 210 5spd trans. But, this will be the first A14/5spd '79 I've ever seen in person. The other two were A12a/4spd cars. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 All 1979 210 5-speeds were dogleg (60L), but they were not B210 doglegs (63A). And a 210 made 10/78 is both "made in 1978" and "a 1979 model". Both are true statements. how do I tell if it is a non overdrive? How does it shift? ? Or ? If it is out of the car, put it in the reverse position and rotate the input shaft. Hold onto the output shaft to put some drag on it, and verify the output shaft turns the opposite direction. Quote Link to comment
goes2fast Posted January 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 All 1979 210 5-speeds were dogleg (60L), but they were not B210 doglegs (63A). And a 210 made 10/78 is both "made in 1978" and "a 1979 model". Both are true statements. How does it shift? ? Or ? If it is out of the car, put it in the reverse position and rotate the input shaft. Hold onto the output shaft to put some drag on it, and verify the output shaft turns the opposite direction. What does this have to do with the 5th gear ratio??? Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Good question. You can tell by where the reverse gear is. If it is a straight pattern box, it is overdrive. I forgot to say that if it is dogleg, you can tell by the number cast on the side of the gearbox. 56A is non-overdrive and 63A is overdrive. When you going to give us a PIC? Quote Link to comment
goes2fast Posted January 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Good question. You can tell by where the reverse gear is. If it is a straight pattern box, it is overdrive. I forgot to say that if it is dogleg, you can tell by the number cast on the side of the gearbox. 56A is non-overdrive and 63A is overdrive. When you going to give us a PIC? A pic of what? Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Ratsun always asks for pics, your choice of what you want to contribute. Quote Link to comment
goes2fast Posted January 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Ratsun always asks for pics, your choice of what you want to contribute. I've been posting pics on my build thread. :P Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 OK, now how do I tell if it is a non overdrive? :confused: This is an almost vanishingly small chance that it is a Direct Drive (DD) 5 speed. If out place in 5th gear and turn the input shaft 10 times. If it is a DD the output spline will turn 10 times. If an overdrive 5 speed it will turn much less, like 8 or so turns. Quote Link to comment
goes2fast Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 This is an almost vanishingly small chance that it is a Direct Drive (DD) 5 speed. If out place in 5th gear and turn the input shaft 10 times. If it is a DD the output spline will turn 10 times. If an overdrive 5 speed it will turn much less, like 8 or so turns. It's in the car, and we just got about 20 inches of snow, so it will be a while before I can get a look to see what number is on it. By the way, if 5th is an overdrive, it would turn more than 10 times, not less. Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 All 1979 210 5-speeds were dogleg (60L), but they were not B210 doglegs (63A). And a 210 made 10/78 is both "made in 1978" and "a 1979 model". Both are true statements. Well, my '79 has a straight pattern 5spd. And doesn't appear to have ever been out of the car. There is zero evidence that the transmission was swapped, and since I bought the car from the original owner who swears they have never even put a clutch in it, I think this info is wrong. And FWIW my Haynes manual and FSM don't list annything for the B310 but a straight-pattern 5spd and a 4spd. No doglegs listed for this chassis. Where did you read this information? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Well, my '79 has a straight pattern 5spd. And doesn't appear to have ever been out of the car. There is zero evidence that the transmission was swapped, and since I bought the car from the original owner who swears they have never even put a clutch in it, I think this info is wrong. And FWIW my Haynes manual and FSM don't list annything for the B310 but a straight-pattern 5spd and a 4spd. No doglegs listed for this chassis. Where did you read this information? Well the car is 33 years old. If it was swapped there would be no evidence left even after as little as six months. Haynes manuals are only so-so for the backyard mechanic doing tune ups. The FSM is far and away better but can have old info if there were production changes. BTW what year is your FSM??? Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 BTW what year is your FSM??? 1980, but it's a moot point. We'll just have to agree to disagree here. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Well a 1980 FSM isn't going to list a dogleg in it. Everything I have indicates it should have a dogleg, obviously you don't so... it's a mystery. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Where did you read this information? Good question. I read it in the 1979 FSM. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 It has a faster reverse in it too. The 60A has a slightly taller overdrive @ 0.821. Quote Link to comment
Datsun1972 Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 I'm looking for a transmission for my 1972 Datsun 510 I have a l18 engine in it all I need is a good 4 speed tranny or a 5 speed. Anybody that knows someone that has one please contact me @ 6619920154 I'm located in Lancaster California Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 This is the forum for discussion of the 1200. If looking for something please use the CLASSIFIEDS section by clicking on the link top middle of every page. Fill in the spaces fully and post it. Be sure to mark WTB want to buy. Thank-you 1 Quote Link to comment
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