goes2fast Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Any one know what cars came with the dog leg 5 speed? I want to know in case I ever need parts for mine. Thanks! :cool: Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 For your 71 1200 Sport Coupe, there were three doglegs: 1970-1972 Datsun 1200 GX5, 1976-1978 Datsun B210, and 1979 Datsun 210. 1 Quote Link to comment
NCLNDYM Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Thought some came from 78 or 79 200sx, if you ever take in to have worked they're referred to as Rally 5 speed, FYI..mines in the shop now Quote Link to comment
DRIVEN Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 78 or 79 200sx Similar but not the same. It's the 63-series but has an L-motor bellhousing on it. Goes2fast, unless it gets run out of oil (or you don't know how to drive :P ) it'll likely never need work. They are the largest transmission put behind an A-series. I've been running one for about 7 years and it's held up better than I ever expected. Quote Link to comment
NCLNDYM Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 ok, mine has the 63A stamp on it, so what would it have come from, its short only 24 or 26 inches Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 For your 71 1200 Sport Coupe, there were three doglegs: 1970-1972 Datsun 1200 GX5, 1976-1978 Datsun B210, and 1979 Datsun 210. Lol. Yup it was a dogleg that would fit the A series motor, but a direct drive 5th gear (non over-drive) F5W56 series transmission and never in North America. Thought some came from 78 or 79 200sx, if you ever take in to have worked they're referred to as Rally 5 speed, FYI..mines in the shop now Yes L series doglegs were standard equipment in the '77-'79 S10 (200sx). It was an option on the '78-'79 only US A10 (HL510) A Z series dogleg was available on the '80-'81 four door hatchback A10 also but had a slightly closer ratio gear set. Quote Link to comment
NCLNDYM Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 As always, thanks Mike Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 ok, mine has the 63A stamp on it, so what would it have come from, its short only 24 or 26 inches So do the ones that fit the B210. Follow the center line on the top of the transmission in front of the shifter and follow up to the motor mounting bolts. The B-210 dogleg, left, goes evenly between the top two bolts. The L series motor is tilted about 12 degrees right of vertical so the center line is over beside the left bolt hole like the other two (middle and far right) in the picture below. Because the Z series motor is about 12 degrees tilted to the left of vertical, the dogleg for it will have the casting seam over beside the right hand top head bolt All N American 63As are 26" long but they do come longer in other countries and are 31.5". They are used on the L18 motor used in the 810 in Europe and I think in Japan. . Quote Link to comment
DRIVEN Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 B-210 dogleg, right Did you mean left? Quote Link to comment
420n620 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 ok, mine has the 63A stamp on it, so what would it have come from, its short only 24 or 26 inches where is this "63A" located at. Quote Link to comment
NCLNDYM Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Can't find my pics right now, I wanna say by the reverse switch area Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Right (pass) side on tailstock B-210 dogleg... . Quote Link to comment
NCLNDYM Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 That's it, which switches do what, mine are all bent like in the pic. Mine only has two switches like your top pic. Quote Link to comment
420n620 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Thanks mike, got another ?ing. is the FS5W60A tanny also marked w/ 60A on the passenger side also. I'm assuming it is, just want to make sure. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 which switches do what One switch is for the reverse lights The other is for: Nuetral switch or Top Gear off, or Top Gear on. Depending on the the year. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 All you will really need is the reverse switch for your back up lights. That would be the middle switch of the three below just above the 63A. Top gear (if equipped) would be the one in the lower right. The neutral switch (if equipped) rides on the striking rod just forward of the shifter, upper left. Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 For your 71 1200 Sport Coupe, there were three doglegs: 1970-1972 Datsun 1200 GX5, 1976-1978 Datsun B210, and 1979 Datsun 210. How sure are you of the last one? My '79 210 is not a dogleg. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 I assume from the beginning of the 210's introduction in or around the middle of '78 and up to July '79 (the beginning of the '80 model year) the FS5W60L dogleg was used. From August '79 ('80 model year) the FS5W60A regular shift pattern was used for the rest of the 210 run of cars. As I understand it the L suffix means dogleg, A is regular H pattern shift. The 60 series L or A transmissions are not as strong as the 63A. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Thanks mike, got another ?ing. is the FS5W60A tanny also marked w/ 60A on the passenger side also. I'm assuming it is, just want to make sure. The 60 series 4 and 5 speeds are all marked on the middle of the main case. Below is an FS5W60A top and an FS5W60L (dogleg) below it. Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 I assume from the beginning of the 210's introduction in or around the middle of '78 and up to July '79 (the beginning of the '80 model year) the FS5W60L dogleg was used. Kooky. Mine is a 10/78 with a straight pattern 5spd. I'll see if I can find the numbers on it. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 1979 model year came factory with a dogleg 5. They didn't make the straight 5s in 1978 (not even in Japan), so someone has retrofitted it. Probably was a 4-speed car originally. Or maybe some PO didn't like the dogleg so swapped in a straight pattern gearbox. Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 1979 model year came factory with a dogleg 5. They didn't make the straight 5s in 1978 (not even in Japan), so someone has retrofitted it. Possibly. But how would you know? Assuming the swap was done correctly there will be no evidence it didn't come that way. :P But I will definitely take a look... Probably was a 4-speed car originally. Not likely. 99.9% sure the coupe never came with a 4spd. FWIW, my '80 and '81 dealer brochures say that only the base model 2dr sedan came with the A12a/4spd. All others are 5spd or automatic. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Yup. It may have been a case of you gets what you gets from the wrecking yard.. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 99.9% sure the coupe never came with a 4spd I dunno, you might be right Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 My info shows all years of 210 coupe had 4, 5 speed or automatic. Quote Link to comment
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