2 dr 610 Dirt track build, *now with video*

[bonvo]

hmm then probibly s30 those arnt zx calapers

[bonvo]

also im thinking that the second strut was made look at the welds at the bottom of the strut tube those arent factory

[GreaseMonky]

Yeah we kinda figured that they werent ZX calipers, we have a pare of ZX struts here to compare.

 

 

We where gonna put the ZX struts on, but not sure if I can get away with lowering my car that much, and then i will still have different springs from left to right, if we use the ones we pulled out

[GreaseMonky]

the welds on the bottom of the strut where to increase negative camber, its not welded all the way around, it was notched and then re welded

[datzenmike]

This is consistent with all 610 front brakes and 710 brakes to '75.

 

U6050 couldn't find but the U prefix is used on 610 and 710 struts.

 

 

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[GreaseMonky]

so whats the H prefix? whats the brakes on the other strut and that one has the smaller spring diamater

 

 

 

the u prefix is just over 5.5 inches and the h prefix is about 4,.5 inches in diameter

 

and the lengths are U 27 1/8 and H 27

[bonvo]

look at the strut with the smaller diamiter spring look at the bottom you can see that that whole strut was cut and welded together they probibly broke something and made it work

[GreaseMonky]

No thats the bigger diamater spring and that was to gain more negative camber this car is running about 10 degrees of negative camber on the right front, which is where the large spring came from

[bonvo]

either way why do you need to know what struts are in it

[GreaseMonky]

so i can replace them, like i said before, I was going to use the zx struts, but then I would have mix matched springs, and I am not sure if I can have my car 2 inches lowerI got alot of wheel and tire under my car

[RedBanner]

So to recap, the strut thats cut and re welded has the brakes mike stated where 610 brakes, and thr 5.5 dia. Spring .

The other strut has the small 4.5 dia. Spring and the smaller brakes with pins, my b210 had the pins for the pads, come to think of it my a10 did too

[RedBanner]

either way why do you need to know what struts are in it

it would be nice to know, we would like to match springs and or brakes, if you had different springs ans struts on your car wouldnt you like to know, and we dont want to weld mussmatches perches and springs onto zx struts if we go that route, but there us a height requirement, thanks for your help tho bonvo you know your 610.

[bonvo]

i would just replace them with some zx struts and call it done so you dont have to worry about it you will also have better brakes

[RedBanner]

The springs are way different the second one is on the left

if you notice the strut tops, the left one(modded for camber) has a round top about the same size as the moog camber plates, the right un modded strut has a triangle top much smaller than tge camberplates.

Dont know if this help but thanks again.

[GreaseMonky]

Problem is i dont have matching springs to put on the zx struts, and dont think i can get away with lowering my car more than it is

[RedBanner]

i would just replace them with some zx struts and call it done so you dont have to worry about it you will also have better brakes

we still need springs and perches bonvo, cant go ajustable its against the rules. Hence the questions, I see your logic and agree exept,

There a height restriction, the zx strut is 2 inches shorter, getting it real close to the limit.

Then theres the wheels, hes got a couple sets of 13s but no 14s to clear the calipers, so wearing the existing tires out atleast

Then theres the ban on ajustable struts, or my coils would be on the thing

[GreaseMonky]

Now the 13" wheels I have do fit the ZX struts, there 13x8 with 2" of backspacing, but there is lowing and spring issues

[RedBanner]

Now the 13" wheels I have do fit the ZX struts, there 13x8 with 2" of backspacing, but there is lowing and spring issues

the aero ones fit? How much more back spacing could you get away with? you should check out datzenmikes 2x6 spring compresser in his 710 wagon thread too, ill grab the link real quick.

[GreaseMonky]

yes the areo wheels fit, I also have another set that just barley rub that are a aftermarket wheel, but more like a stock size,

[RedBanner]

http://community.ratsun.net/topic/24412-my-76-710-goon/page__st__60 page 3 and 4 hes got the same strut as your passenger side

[hacked521]

wish i would have saw this sooner, i dont have 610 knowledge at all but i have a ton of dirt circle track knowledge. is one of your front brake setups on the front struts better than the other? as in is it going to grab the rotor better? also have you scaled this car yet at all? just curious to see what kind of rear percentages and cross percentages you have.

[GreaseMonky]

yes they have the better brake, or what i would think would be better on the right front, it also has the larger spring on that aide as well, no i myself havent scalled the car yet

[hacked521]

you guys turn left on your dirt oval right?

[GreaseMonky]

yes

[hacked521]

had to make sure, are you guys allowed to hog out the brake pads? make the brake pads hollow? if you move which ever is your more clamping force of a caliper to the left front this will help rotate the car for corner entry, if you are allowed to hollow out your brake pads hollow out the right front brake pads. this will give the lf more brake bias and help rotate the car even more.