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Posted 18 April 2012 - 09:51 PM

Hi Dime Dave, thanks for info on the 280zx spindle shaft angle question...I've heard conflicting things about that...but if I do run into problems I think I will be using some camber plates at the top of the strut tower.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 10:28 PM

I've heard on here in a couple threads that the 280zx struts pull the wheel in about 3/4 of an inch compared with the stock 510 strut. Does anyone know where this 3/4 inch "tuck" is gained? in the 280zx top hat angle? or where it mounts up in the bottom of the strut? I want to continue running my 510 brakes (and/or struts) but I want that 3/4 of an inch.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:51 AM

I'm pretty sure the tuck comes from the bottom because I am only using the zx strut housing not the top hat and I gained the 3/4" of tuck. If the top was adjusted with tons of camber you could get maybe 3/4" but only at the top. Zx struts bring the whole wheel inboard right at the spindle. Possibly because the hub is thinner? I never checked that tho.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 02:50 PM

Fourfiveten is correct...ZX struts have a narrower (sp?) track width of ~3/4". Top hats do not matter.
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Posted 22 May 2012 - 04:48 PM

New information/affirmation of information!!!

ZX Top hats vs the 510 Top hats.

Rumor: ZX top hats are skinnier than 510 top hats.

I have heard this from a few people but always in passing. I set out to find out today.

Here are the 2, 510 on the right:
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For some quick measurements:
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510:
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ZX:
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That would look like 1/2" difference to me! Well maybe not huge, it is something.

Now you will need to trim the top hat to fit:
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Posted 22 May 2012 - 04:50 PM

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 06:47 PM

Is the spring not of a larger diameter.
Also what (if it works) is the caster angle going to be like

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 06:51 PM

This is just the part that bolts to the strut tower. The actual upper spring perch will remain 510. This is the part where the bearing sits at the top. Still using the 510 spring.

Castor should be the same. As before as well. If anything this will add negative camber, but not much.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 06:55 PM

This is just the part that bolts to the strut tower. The actual upper spring perch will remain 510. This is the part where the bearing sits at the top. Still using the 510 spring.

Castor should be the same. As before as well. If anything this will add negative camber, but not much.



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I am really curious on the caster angle.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 09:18 PM

Why would caster change at all? The top of the shock still mounts dead center of the 3 posts like it does stock. Now the top of the shock is just higher.

Why did I do this? Well I needed to retain my ride height (I like where it is at), but my lower spring perch was too low, Gaining 1/2" at the top allowed me to raise the the lower spring perch 1/2".

So for anyone going to do the ZX strut swap, you might as well use the top hat for more low.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 05:46 PM

Are struts on all the FWD Maximas equivalent to 280ZX struts for swapping onto a 510? Wagons and sedans the same? Anything else of that era usable, like S110 200SX?

Where do you find the split collars? Auto parts? Home building supply? Industrial supply? I know I've seen this info before, but my search skills are as bad as my memory.

Spokane P&S has three 300ZXs. I got all excited thinking they would be way cool strut donors, but I got bogged down in researching that idea. It seems it can be done, but not as simple as using a 280ZX strut. But if I'm wrong, and 300ZX would work without huge extra work somehow, I'd like to know, just because P&S is awash with 300ZXs now, and no 280ZXs to be seen.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 06:47 PM

Dont touch FWD, that doesnt even make sense to use...

Front of a 510 is the same on all models.

Super rare to find in a JY but you can use 200sx S12 SE struts, they are the 5 lug ones...

Basically use 280zx front struts.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 07:16 PM

Geez, stooopid! My brain knew to type RWD, but my fingers decided to do FWD. I almost spelled out "rear wheel drive Maximas", but went with the abbreviation instead. You can see how well that worked.

So anyone want to give an answer on the question for REAR WHEEL DRIVE Maxima struts (hope I typed it right this time)?

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 07:47 PM

Should work, I think the maxima and 280zx used basically the same sub frame. Not sure about the brakes though, they might be different... Ask mike, I am sure he knows as I have seen him post about it.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 08:05 PM

Okay, thanks. Realistically, it is probably more likely a 280ZX will show up at P&S before a REAR wheel drive Max does. I'm in no hurry. I just want to know what to keep looking for when at P&S.

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 12:34 PM

little late but the narrower track width i think comes from the spindles and rotor set up there much thinner then the 510 stuff

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 12:41 PM

Where is everyone/anyone getting their shaft collars from? I see plenty online, but who doesn't love instant gratification if it's available? If any chain or generic shops carry them I'd much rather pick them up.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 01:01 PM

Where is everyone/anyone getting their shaft collars from? I see plenty online, but who doesn't love instant gratification if it's available? If any chain or generic shops carry them I'd much rather pick them up.


Industrial fastener supply shops carry them, not sure what you've got in Atlanta but that's where to start looking.

It's online, not instant gratification but these guys have them
http://www.fastenal.com/web/search/product/shaft-collars/_/Navigation?searchterm=steel+collar&sortby=webrank&sortdir=descending&searchmode=&refine=~|categoryl3:%22603515%20Shaft%20Collars%22|~%20~|sattr01:^2%22$|~

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 04:07 PM

little late but the narrower track width i think comes from the spindles and rotor set up there much thinner then the 510 stuff


The track width difference comes from the hub. You can switch to z31 300zx front hubs/rotors and get the track closer to stock. This mod will require you to fab up a bracket to run 4 pot Wilwoods too.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 06:05 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong. But by using the zx top hat. That is also 1/2 inch less effecting the strut as well. So a 2 inch drop with a 510 top hat and a 2.5 drop with a zx top hat effect the strut same way!
More low less chance to blow it out!