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#21 mklotz70

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 03:40 AM

I started looking into a vented, non-captured option at one point, but it required machining the stock hub and taking quite a bit of metal off the outside edge. It comes down to the rotor options. If I were to have a custom rotor made up, it might be possible, but I doubt the market would bear the cost. As for fitting 13's.....I don't know for sure, but I seriously doubt there's a non-captured rotor out there that would allow that and still use a modern style caliper. Maybe with a Wilwood caliper, but that puts things into the "money no object" category. Anything is possible in that context, but this is the Datsun market.....it has to be fairly cheap....which negates quite a few options :)
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Posted 29 August 2010 - 04:05 AM

More specific info on the studs. These are the same studs that guys use on the 510's.....which is what I originally bought them for.

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 07:31 PM

Picked these up today. We may end up using ones that are a bit shorter. I bought these at Oil Filter Services, although I figure if guys want them on their rig, they can order them from Summit. :)

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 05:07 PM

Those are way cool, I like the way the ends change out. How much were they for a pair with the ends? Do you have a link?

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Posted 15 September 2010 - 05:05 AM

Summit has them. Oil Filter doesn't have a site that I've found. The originally told me about $75 for the pair with ends, but they dropped that about $15-20 when I told them what Summit wanted....but I didn't realize the Summit price was for shorter lines. Anyway....I just got a new contact that may be able to get me DOT approved lines at a sweet price....we'll see.
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Posted 23 September 2010 - 07:30 PM

Mike, will the caliper fit under 13" wheels?



I was checking this again tonight.....it will NOT fit behind stamped(stock) steel wheels, but Doug (owner) said that he tried an aftermarket 13" aluminum wheel and it fit...barely.

I mocked it up with a stock 411 13" rim....no way will it fit. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a steel 13" wheel that will fit, but I won't be the one trying to hunt that down.

I'm getting to the point where I'm considering putting in an order to the laser cutter.....but I only know of one other guy that's interested in this upgrade. I don't want to put in an order for 22-30 plates and find out there's no interest.

I'm looking into an option for brake lines....if included in the kit, it will up the price a good bit. If not, the basic kit should be around the $50-60 I mentioned before.....basic kit would also NOT include the longer wheel studs.

Any of the 1200 forum guys....Dave.....know if this would be of interest to this crowd? :)
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Posted 28 September 2010 - 08:20 PM

Here are a few different after market 13" wheels
13" Libre 13X7 BS 3.75"
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13" Bud Hand wheels 13X5.5 BS 3.5"
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13" slotted mags 13X5.5 BS 2.75" Not centered was just picture of wheel style.

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All fit without interference and have more than 1/4" off space between caliper and wheel. Tried 13" steel wheels from 210 and 510, wouldn't go on!

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 08:33 PM

Awesome info!! Thanks!! I've got pics of the steel wheels....just haven't gotten them uploaded yet.
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Posted 05 October 2010 - 08:12 PM

Installed all new parts and stainless steel brake lines and adaptors.
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Brake line brackt on the strut tube was bent down so as not to cause rubbing against new brake lines
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Bought zinc coated slotted rotors off of ebay for $44.00 free shipping and rebuilt calipers from NAPA and got 2nd Saturday price of $33.00 each. I used ceramic pads, they were $60.00 at NAPA. Brakes lines and adapters were purchased locally and the cost may vary depending on what available in your area. This brake conversion is awesome- slows the 1200 down quickly with less pedal pressure and no fade!
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Mike will have the green adapter zinc coated in the future. Thanks Mike for all your work to make a simple brake conversion for a simple little car!

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 08:17 PM

You're more than welcome buddy!! Even if I don't sell any, I still had a blast doing it! :)
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Posted 06 October 2010 - 02:50 PM

They look great!

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Posted 06 October 2010 - 04:25 PM

Thanks. As I keep getting closer to my school date...I'm starting to realize that I won't be putting in an order for brackets until I get back. I'll see about modifying the CAD art while I'm at school. Besides....I've gotten feedback from one or two other guys that they're interested. I'm not sure I want to order 20+ brackets if there's no interest. :)
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Posted 06 October 2010 - 08:23 PM

A couple of these look nearly identical to the ones Morrisun took....but here's the ones I took of the install. :)

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 05:26 PM

I've been driving my 1200 sedan for 29 years now and plan to keep going. I've had a lot of close calls over the years and sure would like to be able to stop better because the other idiots on the road are getting worse! I ask you to please send me a cost for your upgrade kit. I went to 13" steel wheels long ago and went to a 165R80x13 rear tire after swapping in a 310 5-speed trans & rear pumpkin to keep my speedometer accurate. Did you ever discover a 13" steel that will work ? What kind of 14" steel will fit and what size tire do you reccomend ? Thank you for any info you can give SS

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 06:04 PM

The cabl/Internet is down at the hotel. Hopefully it will be back up by tomorrow. Posting from the phone is possible, just not easy. I'll check back on this tomorrow... Hopefully the cable will be back up.
Morrisun didn't find a 13" steel rim that fit.
Not sure on cost and I don't have any of my hardware prices with me, so I wont have a firm price for at least another week.
I think any 14" steel wheel fit.
Theres several tire size calculators out there that will give you a 14" option to match your diameter. You may want to actually measure your ties just to double check the calc since size can vary a bit be tween brands.
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Posted 02 November 2010 - 05:51 AM

I'm still in. When you have a final price on the package (and one to sell :D ) let me know. I haven't forgotten about that lunch I owe you either.

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 05:08 PM

I've enjoyed the heck out of my time down here, but I'm about ready to get home and get busy!! :)
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Posted 27 February 2011 - 04:03 PM

Any update? Still interested if you decide to do some kits.

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 06:41 PM

I'm thinking about opening up the holes just a bit like I did for Doug's, then have them plated with this next batch of brake brackets. There's a note on my desk right in front of me to remind me to check the measurements and artwork and see about having some more cut. I'd much rather be doing that than what I've been doing..........pulling the motor on the lincoln :( I'm seriously thinking about selling the Fairlane off before I get any deeper into it. As much as I'd like to have one to cruise the highway with, there's just nothing between where it is now and driving it that I actually want to do. :(
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Posted 28 February 2011 - 07:39 AM

You may not sell the Fairlane. I forbid it. You'll feel better once that Lincoln isn't taking up half your yard. Just set it aside and focus on that 521 for a while. The itch will come back and you'll want to rock a long-roof again.

As for the brakes...no rush. Just looking for an update. When they're ready - they're ready. Thanks again.