610racecar Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 I am the proud owner of a 1974 vs 1975 Datsun 610 race car. This car has floated around for some time- I found some posts on this site going back to 2007 where it was for sale. By the time it got to me, a lot of the goodies (rebuilt L20B, wheels, spares, etc) were gone, but it is still a good basis for a vintage race car. I previously raced a Fiat 128 from 1997 to 2005, then had a 1976 Honda Civic until my son totaled it in a open track day 3 weeks ago. Hence the new race car. I loved the 510s and B210s I saw race at Blackhawk Farms and Road America, and am looking forward to getting this car race ready after about 15 years of hibernation. My problem-the id plate on the inner drivers door panel is damaged, so I can make out the year (1974), but not the month. Can someone clue me in getting this out of the VIN number by the windshield? All the websites I have checked don't reference Datsuns this old. Thanks, Marc in Indy Quote Link to comment
skunk Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 i cant help, but you should post some pics. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Sure, post here (or send me via Private Message) the Car No. listed under the hood. If that is missing, look for the stamped number under the hood on the firewall. Quote Link to comment
zerow Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 I know the '73s like the back of my hand. The '74s, not so much. What are the last 5 of the VIN? PM and I will do my best to guess... Quote Link to comment
bonvo Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 pics manditory Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Can someone clue me in getting this out of the VIN number by the windshield? All the websites I have checked don't reference Datsuns this old. Thanks, Marc in Indy Well, post the VIN then. Quote Link to comment
610racecar Posted August 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Well, post the VIN then. Serial number PM'ed to ggzilla. I await his findings here. I try to get some pics up as soon as I can. Currently the car is covered in Civic parts I just parted out. Boy, you guys sure are impatient. Don't expect a beauty queen. It's an old Improved Touring car with a ton of dents. Here are pics from the old post. The car hasn't changed one bit in 3 years. http://community.ratsun.net/topic/2066-cool-610/page__p__29877__hl__610__fromsearch__1#entry29877 Marc in Indy Quote Link to comment
zerow Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 ...Don't expect a beauty queen.... This is ratsun.net, not beautifulnissans.net. We kinda don't really care what she looks like, as long as the all important Datsun or Nissan emblem is there, and even it can look like crap. Quote Link to comment
bonvo Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Serial number PM'ed to ggzilla. I await his findings here. I try to get some pics up as soon as I can. Currently the car is covered in Civic parts I just parted out. Boy, you guys sure are impatient. Don't expect a beauty queen. It's an old Improved Touring car with a ton of dents. Here are pics from the old post. The car hasn't changed one bit in 3 years. http://community.ratsun.net/topic/2066-cool-610/page__p__29877__hl__610__fromsearch__1#entry29877 Marc in Indy thats the car if so cool Quote Link to comment
610racecar Posted August 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Okay, if anyone wants to take a shot at the VIN PL610033625 Marc Quote Link to comment
610racecar Posted August 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Okay, lots of pics in the ebay listing http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-610-Vintage-race-B-Sedan_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZalgoQ3dLVIQ26ituQ3dUCIQ26otnQ3d2Q26poQ3dLVIQ26psQ3d63Q26clkidQ3d6705608169589549050QQ_trksidZp3286Q2em7QQcategoryZ98064QQitemZ150473984484 Marc Quote Link to comment
zerow Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Okay, if anyone wants to take a shot at the VIN PL610033625 Marc There is no 'K' in front of the VIN number??? The K would be there for '74 models, and it signifies sport coupe, which is what the body shape lends to from the photos. I would have to go on numeric facts, and say this was an Early Model run, likely a September or October of '74 with A LOT of '73 grafted parts. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Sorry I have misplaced my Datsun 610 parts catalog. It has scheduled productio months for car ID number blocks. datzenmike, are you able to ID it? Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Man that is awesome Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 KHL610ATU K....... hardtop, blank sedan H....... L20B, blank L18 L....... Left hand reive 610.... 610 duh! A....... automatic, blank standard T....... floor shift, black column U...... USA. V after '74..... California Not very good huh? Hang on I have a '74 FSM. Quote Link to comment
zerow Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 KHL610ATU K....... hardtop, blank sedan H....... L20B, blank L18 L....... Left hand reive 610.... 610 duh! A....... automatic, blank standard T....... floor shift, black column U...... USA. V after '74..... California Not very good huh? Hang on I have a '74 FSM. Same thing I thought, but 610racecar has no 'K', so I wonder what is going on here...The PL610 would imply '72 or '73. The 033625 would be Mid November of '72. Is the plate implying that this is a two-door sedan, not a sports coupe...??? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 K is hardtop. A blank space (or no K) means sedan. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 K is for kuupe (Coupe). The R sedan was similar but had door glass frames (non-hardtop). Quote Link to comment
610racecar Posted August 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Ignore the bumpers, as they may not be original. In Improved Touring, you can update or backdate body parts within a series line. The earlier bumpers probably weigh less than the later ones. I will eventually remove the bumpers, as this is allowed per later 70's B-Sedan rules. Marc Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 I don't think there is anything on it that would indicate the month of manufacture other than the door tag. The serial number gives the number for that year that it was built. An early number would indicate an early month but who knows??? Quote Link to comment
bonvo Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Same thing I thought, but 610racecar has no 'K', so I wonder what is going on here...The PL610 would imply '72 or '73. The 033625 would be Mid November of '72. Is the plate implying that this is a two-door sedan, not a sports coupe...??? my vin has no k in it and its definatly a coupe Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 The '74 610 FSM says K............. Hardtop. W is wagon. No letter in this space is Sedan H............. L20B equipped L.............. Lest hand drive US 610 U.............. Left hand drive Canada A.............. Automatic. No letter is manual transmission W............. Reclining seat T............... Floor shift N............... Equipped for Canada, black for US C............... Air Con equipped Quote Link to comment
zerow Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 my vin has no k in it and its definatly a coupe Okay, hold on. You have a '73. Totally different animal in terms of VIN. And, to top that, The '73 VINs are supposed to follow the scheme that Datzenmike has described, but I know I have posted the '73 FSM version on the 610 Unites thread... :huh: Quote Link to comment
bonvo Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Okay, hold on. You have a '73. Totally different animal in terms of VIN. And, to top that, The '73 VINs are supposed to follow the scheme that Datzenmike has described, but I know I have posted the '73 FSM version on the 610 Unites thread... :huh: ah but see even shelly didnt have a k in the vin Quote Link to comment
610racecar Posted September 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Okay, an update on the VIN: Number on windshield plate and engraved in the firewall: PL610033625 Number on door jam plate and firewall plate HPL610 027823 Door jam plate when removed and scrutinized from the back says 8/74 manufacture (it was scratched out from the front) Since the door jam plate and the firewall plate are attached by non-OEM screws, I assume these were taken from another car. Why, I have no clue. Front brakes are same as 510 with the funky chamfered brake pads. Mechanicals underneath look clean and solid. Nice header and exhaust, brake ducting to front brakes from the front spoiler, stainless steel flexible brake lines and huge rear aftermarket sway bar. Interesting contrast to some of the crampy detail work in the interior ie, the piece of carpet on the rear window deck to cover the holes. This was apparently in response to the log entry by the SCCA tech inspector who said the holes needed to be covered to isolate the fuel cell- Yikes! What month did the new model year roll over in 1974? Thanks, Marc in Indy Quote Link to comment
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