510 Weight Thread

[HRH]

"We want information...information...information!"

"Who are you?"

"The new number two."

"Who is number one?"

"You are number six."

"I am not a number, I am a free man."

"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA."

 

-Iron Maiden

 

So I searched and searched, but couldn't find a concrete thread devoted to weight. Apparently some of our members are a little conscious of their size? :D Okay, not actually. I thought we should make a thread of 510 weights, paying careful attention to what's been added or removed from the vehicle. That way we can refer back to this thread for that information when we're curious just how much the 510 actually weighs with a VG swap, or 280ZX brakes, etc.

 

Weigh your rig at a certified scale! The dump works for me; they'll let you roll on, get a weight, then go on your merry way without charging you. And their scales are usually accurate to within 20 pounds.

 

For instance, my 510 weighed 2130 pounds with a half tank of gas back when it still had the leaky original L16, and stock everything else.

 

I tried to get it weighed today but the dump was closed, but I suspect it will be heavier now with upgraded brakes and bigger motor/carb assembly, but I'm not sure.

 

So to clarify:

 

Stock 1971 510 four door.

L16, 4 speed, stock everything (brakes,diff,trans).

Half tank of gas.

Full size spare tire in trunk well.

 

Weight: 2130 lbs.

[datzenmike]

"We want information...information...information!"

"Who are you?"

"The new number two."

"Who is number one?"

"You are number six."

"I am not a number, I am a free man."

"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA."

 

-Iron Maiden

 

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[HRH]

You know what's funny, I have never actually seen the movie, though I've wanted to.

[yellowdatsun]

Not much of a big need for a weight chart, as I would tend to think everyone out there is going to do the upgrades they want regardless of the weight penalty. 99% of all 510's fall between 1900 and 2200 lbs. I think the VG30DETT 510 comes in at close to 2400. People out there, including myself, have weight charts of engines, transmissions, and diffs..........but nobody ever uses the information we already have. Seems the only ones truly concerned about the weight are the actual race cars.

[datzenmike]

I only remember the TV show, didn't even know they have a movie in the works.

[HRH]

I only remember the TV show, didn't even know they have a movie in the works.

 

Well, shows how not old I am, I thought it was a movie, didn't realize it was a series.

 

As for the weight, they may not be a need for it, but it sure would be handy, I think. Accurate is as accurate does! Plus, it's a lot easier when someone asks "How heavy will a VG swap make my 510?" Then we can refer them to this handy dandy weight thread.

[BoostinBen]

im on the way to the shop we got a set of scales there.. if I get a few min ill throw the 510 on em and post up results.

[yellowdatsun]

Total weight gain on a VG30 swap is less than a hundred pounds. I believe the VG30E is only some 60 pounds heavier than the L engines. Figure probably isn't exact, but the swap adds very little weight.

[HRH]

See, that's my point though. Everyone always says that, but there's no actual weight to back it up. Now if we had a thread identifying VG30DE, DETT, regular E, 5 speed, 4 speed, truck variant, disc brakes, zx hubs, 240 struts, power boosters, skid plates, rack and pinion vs. gearbox, etc., we could all be a little more educated and have some concrete weights down.

 

Regardless, the thread is started, so let's fill it up, huh? :) I'll probably weigh the 510 later this week. It should be heavier than before I think.

[LeX]

i'm interested to see what my 510 wagon sr swap weighs.

 

full interior

stock diff

5spd

280zx brakes

[qwik510]

Total weight gain on a VG30 swap is less than a hundred pounds. I believe the VG30E is only some 60 pounds heavier than the L engines. Figure probably isn't exact, but the swap adds very little weight.

 

According to the DQ article on engine swaps, they VG30 engine swap adds 125 pounds. I am sure it is more then that when you add in the additional items needed to complete the swap. Figuring a 510 starts at 2100 pounds I am thinking my VG33 swap will come in at a hefty 2400 pounds. But with ZX brakes, coilovers, rear discs, larger exhaust, sound deadening materials, recaro seats, a stereo system larger wheels and tires, etc. It is to be expected.

[hang_510]

"Down by law, I've got this nasty habit

When I need something I reach out and grab it

Once upon a time I had a name and a way

But to you I'm nothing but a number

1 2 3 repeater"

 

 

You know what's funny, I have never actually seen the movie, though I've wanted to.

:huh: im not laughing!

[HRH]

A guy walks into a bar and says "Ow!" How about that? Laughing now? :D

[qwik510]

According to the DQ article on engine swaps, they VG30 engine swap adds 125 pounds. I am sure it is more then that when you add in the additional items needed to complete the swap. Figuring a 510 starts at 2100 pounds I am thinking my VG33 swap will come in at a hefty 2400 pounds. But with ZX brakes, coilovers, rear discs, larger exhaust, sound deadening materials, recaro seats, a stereo system larger wheels and tires, etc. It is to be expected.

 

 

I read the DQ issue again and the VG does add 125 plus another 40 pounds for the VG 5 speed trans. So a VG swap adds around 165 pounds.

[hang_510]

Laughing now? :D

actually... yes i am! :rofl:

[BoostinBen]

Here is where my dime weighed in at ... minus the front hood .. which wasnt on the car .. 2115 lbs ... as soon as we get the final touches on the wiring done we are going to corner weight it with me sitting in the car....

 

 

[HRH]

Sweet! That's the kind of info we need. What upgrades have you done? Motor/brakes/skidplates/rollbar/etc.? Maybe if I get my alternator swapped out tomorrow, I'll take the 510 up to the dump to weigh her. I don't have the cool corner weight scales.

[datlove]

1972 510 four door.

ka24de/ 5 speed/ welded diff/ coils

almost full tank of gas.

no spare

 

2160 lbs

 

im pretty satisfied my friend has a 2 door all stock with spare in trunk weighed in about 40 less then me

[Icehouse]

I took my 68 2 door over the truck scale and paid 8 bucks to find out it weighted 2160 with almost a full tank and a small parts supply in the trunk :)

[HRH]

Just got back from the dump. Current specs on the 510 are:

 

L20B with 5/speed goofy shift.

280zx brakes/rotors/struts with coilovers in front.

200sx rear rotors with Maxima calipers in rear.

Subi LSD

Trunk completely empty, no spare, no jack, nothing. (Just after autocross)

Interior empty except for two little plastic speaker boxes ~5 pounds and two magnetic racing numbers.

Tires are studless snow tires on 14x5.5 Western Wheel turbines.

Half tank of gas.

 

Weight = 2140 lbs.

[DISLEXICDIME]

72 2 door sr20det bmw rack and front suspension r180. 2200 1/2 tank of gas

 

Edit!!!!!!! Full tank of gas 2200 pounds

[kmc63]

1971 2 door datsun 510. vg-30 powered,280zx brakes,rotors struts coilovers. rears 200sx calipers and rotors. z-tranny stock rearend vw radiator nothing in trunk or extra in interior. 2,280 lbs. :cool:Edit 1/2 tank of gas.

[Icehouse]

I took my 68 2 door over the truck scale and paid 8 bucks to find out it weighted 2160 with almost a full tank and a small parts supply in the trunk :)

 

 

Yesterday I spent 9$ to get the Gobstopper 510 weighted, it scaled 2060lbs, which is weird that it weighted less than my other car.... So all I can figure is that the lady that weighted my stocker must have hit the button when I was still in the car. Which would make sense. Subtract 150lbs then it's just a tad less than the turbo car. Which I'm amazed only weighs a hair over 2k!

 

Gobstopper stats:

 

L20 EFI turbo'd with truck 5 speed and eclipse intercooler

intank Walbro

15" Panasports

sub in trunk with Punch 100 amp (not hooked up yet

Dynomat on roof with new headliner

all interior except carpet

over half tank of fuel

Subi diff

 

2060lbs certified truck scale +/-20lbs with printout 9$

[toonarmy]

THREAD REVIVAL!

 

Came across this thread and had the weight scale printout for my 510 lying around, so here it is:

 

4 dr

VG30E

Z31 5-speed tranny

280zx brakes/struts with coilovers up front

Subaru 3.70 LSD

no spare tire

roll bar

Integra front seats

Z31 300ZX gas tank (19 gallon)

full tank of gas

 

EXACTLY 2400 lbs. on the scales

[510T]

I might as well jump in too!

 

Weighed my dime earlier this year.

 

4 Door

SR20det

R180

200sx struts and brakes

Maxima / 200sx brakes out back

no back seat or rear door panels

no bumpers or spare

I don't remember how much gas

 

2060 +/- 20lbs